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What does it actually take to scale in multifamily real estate and build serious wealth? In this conversation, multifamily investor and CEO Trey Stone sits down with Jack Selby, co-host of the Ice Coffee Hour, alongside special guest Ian Stapleton, co-founder and CMO of Track Record Assets, also known as Ssundee on YouTube. Together, they break down the mindset, strategy, and financial decisions behind growing a real estate portfolio and making it big as an investor. They cover how serious investors think about risk, capital, partnerships, and long term growth, plus the lessons that only come from operating at scale. Whether you are new to real estate or looking to level up, this episode is packed with practical insight and unfiltered perspective from people actively doing it. Subscribe for more! 👇 Jump to your favorite moments below: 00:00 - Intro 03:39 - Why did he retire at 35? 05:31 - How much real estate does Ssundee own? 06:28 - When did you become a millionaire? And not paying tax 07:22 - Why do real estate investors get away with paying zero taxes? 08:47 - When did Ssundee become a millionaire? 09:14 - Is real estate investing EASY? 12:24 - Trey being worth -$50,000,000 19:24 - What’s the worst investment you ever made? 23:35 - How do you recommend people get started with Real Estate in 2025 25:47 - What’s the most amount of money you’ve ever made on a deal? 27:49 - What monetary amount for an item is too much? 32:46 - Is being broke your fault? 34:08 - How to get started investing in commercial real estate today? 41:11 - Has having more money made you happier? 45:57 - Why do most RE investors fail? 48:19 - How does someone start a content creation journey? 1:01:57 - How would you make 1million starting with ZERO in 2025 1:03:51 - What’s the best part of being rich? 1:08:05 - Do you want to make MORE money? If so how much? 1:10:21 - What’s the best piece of advice you’ve ever received? 1:12:36 - Outro