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In this episode of the Sense Making in a Changing World podcast, Morag Gamble engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Laura Oldanie about the contested intersection of permaculture and money. They explore the redefinition of wealth, the myths surrounding conventional financial systems, and the importance of community and social capital in creating a resilient and abundant life. Laura shares insights on how permaculture principles can guide financial decisions, the concept of 'enoughness', and innovative strategies for investing in regenerative assets. Laura is the founder of Rich & Resilient Living. Since she received her Permaculture Design Certificate in 2009, she's been exploring ways to earn, spend, invest, and manage her money and lifestyle to bring about the change she wants to see in the world – and teaching others to do the same. Laura has been featured in Forbes, CNBC, and Good Housekeeping, and is co-author of the life changing book "Growing FREE (Financially Resilient & Economically Empowered): Building the Life of Your Dreams Without Losing Your Soul or Destroying the Planet." Explore more of Laura's work on her Instagram and Youtube, and find her book on Booktopia. She also offers a compilation of free resources & ideas on finding your way to homeownership in today's crises. Join Morag for this weekly podcast - each episode an insightful conversation with leading permaculture-related educators, thinkers, activists, authors, designers and practitioners to explore the kind of thinking AND ACTION. Together we need to navigate a positive and regenerative way forward, to myceliate possibilities, and share ideas of what a thriving one-planet way of life could look like. Morag's guests offer voices of clarity and common sense. This podcast is a project of the Permaculture Education Institute. We work with people on six continents, teaching permaculture design and skills - from how to be a community leader to creating a regenerative permaculture livelihood. Visit our website to find out more. You can start any time, in any capacity! We teach permaculture and host permaculture teacher courses. We also share conversations through monthly masterclasses, Our Permaculture Life YouTube, and offer free monthly film clubs in a supportive global community. This podcast is broadcast from a solar powered studio in the midst of a permaculture ecovillage food forest on beautiful Gubbi Gubbi country. Subscribe, share and comment if you enjoy and keep this podcast myceliating! LAURA OLDANIE LINKS Rich and Resilient Living (website) https://www.richandresilientliving.com/ @Rich_Resilient (on Instagram) @lauraoldanie (on YouTube) BOOKS AND RESOURCES Growing FREE (Financially Resilient & Economically Empowered) Building the Life of Your Dreams Without Losing Your Soul or Destroying the Planet (where to buy ebook and hard copy version outside Australia - https://www.richandresilientliving.co...) Growing FREE (In Australia https://www.booktopia.com.au/growing-...) Permaculture & Money ebook https://payhip.com/b/t8yfp Creative Paths to Homeownership & Housing (a compilation of free resources & ideas) https://payhip.com/b/D4WhL