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f an adventure book had no conflict, you’d stop reading by page ten. Yet, in leadership, we often try to engineer the friction out of our teams. We treat resilience as a solo effort—something we use to push through—and we treat joy as the prize waiting for us only after the crisis is over. But in reality, we’ve got it all backward. When things are too easy, there is nothing to be resilient about—and without that friction, there is nothing to truly celebrate. In this clip from the Uncommon Leadership Roundtable, we explore the Resilience Paradox: the hard-hitting reality that the struggle isn't a bug in your system. It’s a prerequisite for the joy that makes the work worth doing. In this conversation, we explore: -- Why grit without joy is just a countdown to a systemic crash. -- The biological shift that happens when we stop pushing through and start finding momentum. -- Why a perfect system with zero friction actually robs your team of their greatest successes. This isn’t about productivity hacks. It’s about staying human while doing hard work. Meet the Panel Matthew Carlson A senior executive and systems designer known for building high-integrity organizations. Matthew views organizational strategy through the lens of human potential—designing systems where struggle and support coexist to create true resilience. Connect on LinkedIn: / matthewrcarlson Jeff Langr A foundational contributor to the industry "bible" Clean Code, Jeff has spent over 40 years navigating the long ponder of how to survive and thrive through every major tech shift. He focuses on building habits of joy as the essential infrastructure for leadership resilience. Connect on LinkedIn: / jefflangr Michael Hunter Michael Hunter went from debugging code to debugging people—and now helps people debug themselves. Through the Uncommon Leadership Podcast and his work with tech leaders, he explores the invisible cultural and emotional dynamics that stall change and drain teams. Read more:https://uncommonteams.com/ Connect on LinkedIn: / humbugreality Was this conversation worth your time? If yes, give us a thumbs up and subscribe so you don’t miss future episodes. For more inspiring conversations like this, sign up for the Uncommon Leadership newsletter athttps://uncommonteams.com Watch the Uncommon Leadership Podcast: YouTube: @UncommonLeadershipPodcast Prefer audio? Stream here: Apple:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast... Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/2BkXGce... Presented By: Uncommon Change