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‘The War of Art’ Author Steven Pressfield on Conquering Fear, Self-Doubt, and Procrastination

Is the real battle for mastery fought outside of us—or within—and what does it take to win that fight every day? I’m so excited for this week’s guest, Steven Pressfield. Steven is a bestselling author and thought leader on creativity, known for his groundbreaking works like The War of Art and The Legend of Bagger Vance. Steven’s journey is a testament to perseverance—he didn’t publish his first novel until he was 52—and his story proves that it’s never too late to embrace your calling. In this conversation, Steven and I dive deep into the nature of Resistance—how it manifests as fear, procrastination, or self-doubt—and what it takes to overcome it. We explore the concept of the “unlived life” and the metaphor of the “underground river” that represents our innate talents and passions. Steven shares his insights on creativity as a sacred connection, how to discover your purpose, and why living authentically is one of life’s greatest battles. Whether you’re a writer, entrepreneur, athlete, or anyone on the path to mastery, I think you’ll find Steven’s perspective both grounding and inspiring. CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Understanding Resistance: The Barrier to Our True Calling 03:02 - The Unlived Life: Discovering Our Hidden Passions 05:52 - The Hero's Journey: Finding and Embracing Our Purpose 09:09 - The Underground River: Tapping into Our True Self 12:07 - The Nature of Resistance: A Constant Battle 14:51 - Curiosity and the Human Experience: The Quest for Understanding 17:46 - The Duality of Existence: Beauty and Struggle 21:10 - The War of Art: Navigating the Internal Conflict 23:59 - Framing Change: The Art of Embracing Transformation 35:31 - The Internal War for High Art 39:05 - The Muse and Creative Flow 43:55 - The Battle Within: Lessons from the Bhagavad Gita 49:36 - The Challenge of Individualism in a Tribal World 51:41 - Finding New Paths After Loss 55:59 - Embracing the Authentic Self 01:00:51 - Tuning into the Cosmic Radio Station 01:07:10 - The Journey Ahead: New Works and Reflections