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In this episode we reconnect with Robert Rose, CEO of Reliable Robotics, fresh off his testimony before Congress on the state of advanced air mobility. Robert shares what most people misunderstand about FAA certification, i.e. that the regulator isn't there to coach you through it, they're just calling balls and strikes. We explore why Reliable has spent eight years building autonomous systems within existing regulations rather than waiting for new rules, how they've convinced the FAA that zero-visibility automated landing standards can scale from wide-body jets down to Cessna Caravans, and why the "cargo first" narrative that dominates autonomy discussions is largely a regulatory myth. We also dig into Reliable's new Pentagon contract to deploy autonomous cargo aircraft for contested logistics in the Indo-Pacific, what the military calls building "conveyor belts in the sky." Robert explains why military logistics actually demands commercial-grade safety in ways most people don't appreciate, how their solid-state radar technology became an unexpected multibillion-dollar opportunity for existing airlines, and what changed at the FAA after years of low morale and congressional scrutiny. It's a grounded, technically rigorous conversation about what it actually takes to certify autonomy, why operational risk assessments don't work for aircraft above a certain weight class, and how Reliable is grinding through hundreds of compliance submissions to prove that autonomy isn't some distant dream but it's ready now. 04:01 What Actually Makes Certification Hard: Legal Basis, Compliance Plan, Execution 06:33 Testifying Before Congress: FAA Reauthorization, Morale, and What’s Improving 18:40 Why Reliable is a different kind of company 26:41 Reliable's regulatory strategy 34:08 Update on the autonomous Caravan project and contested logistics 37:22 Conveyor Belt in the Sky 39:10 Military Logistics Still Needs Civil-Level Safety 46:44 SkyGrid sponsor segment 49:35 Update on Reliable Robotics and the industry 54:15 Cargo-First Mythbusting 01:01:22 Scaling Autonomy: Certification Tooling, Digital Flight Rules & Closing Thoughts