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For this week’s teardown, Brandon Redlinger sits down with Jon Russo to prove that “spray and pray” is finally dead. In a live build, Jon and Brandon pipe Clay-enriched persona data, Gong call snippets, objection libraries, and battle cards into Claude Cowork, then ask the LLM to spit out a three-step cadence that’s under 100 words, names the prospect’s stack, weaves in a competitive angle, and still sounds human. Along the way, you’ll see • How Clay + Cowork becomes “the new ABM” for strategic accounts • The folder structure Jon uses to keep messaging organized • Why he always leaves a human-in-the-loop before hitting send • Jon’s current AI stack and his biggest adoption challenge Grab your note-taking app—this one is a masterclass in stitching revenue data into emails SDRs can trust. ⸻ RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE Clay Clay is the backbone of the entire workflow—pulling in intent signals, enriching and scoring accounts, pinpointing buying-committee members, drafting outreach, and handing finished sequences to your sales-engagement tool. Grab extra credits with Brandon’s referral link: https://clay.com?via=2bb18e Claude Cowork (by Anthropic) A project-based workspace where reps “chat” with folders of personas, battle cards, and call transcripts to spin up sub-100-word, three-touch cadences that sound genuinely human. Lenny’s Newsletter (by Lenny Rachitsky) Weekly insights on product-led growth and AI trends—Jon’s go-to for staying current on what’s working. ⸻ CHAPTERS 00:00 – Cold open & guest intro 01:50 – Why most cadences fail & Cowork’s edge 04:30 – Folder architecture: turning silos into “stew” 10:30 – Live demo: Clay table → Cowork ingestion 13:10 – Clay + Cowork = the new ABM 16:00 – Signals, personas & writing the 3-touch cadence 18:45 – Strategic vs transactional: when to pick each tool 22:30 – Iterating, rerunning analysis, fixing tone 26:20 – Lightning round: Jon’s AI stack 29:20 – Biggest AI adoption hurdle & closing ⸻ Connect with Brandon on LinkedIn: / brandonredlinger Connect with Jon on LinkedIn: / jonrussoexecutive For all resources—including the prompt templates used—visit https://www.StackAndScale.ai.