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00:00 The State of Zero Trust Adoption 05:05 NIST NCCoE and Real-World Implementation 09:46 Collaboration Among Competitors 15:00 Crawl, Walk, Run: Phased Approaches to Zero Trust 19:49 Integration and Interoperability Challenges 24:56 The Role of AI in Zero Trust 29:53 Cultural Shifts in Zero Trust Implementation 35:00 Common Pitfalls in Zero Trust Strategies In this episode, we bridge the gap between Zero Trust theory and real-world deployment with Norman Wong, a key contributor to NIST's groundbreaking implementation guide (SP 1800-35). Guest: Norman Wong ( / gahnormanwong ) Host: Dr. Victor Monga ( / victorvirtual ) https://csrc.nist.gov/pubs/sp/1800/35... Highlights: --| Why the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mindset is the biggest barrier to Zero Trust adoption. --| Inside baseball from the NIST NCCoE project: how competitors like Palo Alto Networks, Cisco, and Zscaler collaborated to build a real-world Zero Trust architecture. --| The "crawl, walk, run" method: implementing Zero Trust incrementally without disrupting business operations. --| Beyond the user: why identity is crucial for visibility but isn't the only place to start your journey. --| The biggest trap organizations fall into: creating fragmented "Zero Trust silos" that don't integrate. --| Bringing a knife to a gunfight: How AI is becoming non-negotiable for defending against AI-powered attacks. An essential guide for any leader feeling overwhelmed by Zero Trust, this episode offers a practical roadmap for moving from planning and theory to a mature, measurable program. Subscribe to our LinkedIn to never miss news, updates, and quizzes to earn digital badges: / zero-trust-journey 👉 Learn more at: ztjourney.com Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this episode are those of the speakers and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of any affiliated organization. This content is provided for informational purposes only.