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What happens when a journalist interviews a comedian who might secretly understand the media better than most journalists? In this episode, Paul Saylor, musician, comedian, and runner-up in the New York Queer Comedy Festival, joins Jenna Flanagan and Domenic Camia on Laid Off and Looking to unpack: Why news and comedy are basically dating each other now: How AI, algorithms, and outrage are reshaping both industries What it means to “punch up” when everyone’s already fighting online Why the “War on Christmas” might be the world’s longest inside joke And yes how ChatGPT became the most emotionally available man on the internet This is smart, funny, painfully honest and way too real for anyone who’s ever doomscrolled their way through the news. 00:00 Start 06:29 - How Ya Doing is a Hard Question 07:16 - What I Respect About Journalism 12:35 - Using Emotion to Sell the News 15:12 - What’s at the Heart of Funny 19:38 - Comedians Say What Everyone Is Thinking 24:12 - Punching Up vs Punching Down 33:29 - Cancel Culture 44:51 - If Everything Is Funny, What Is Serious? 49:20 - What About AI 1:08:36 - Why Did You Become a Comedian 🎙️ Subscribe to Laid Off and Looking for more conversations where journalism meets real life