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This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted. #GOTOcon #GOTOunscripted https://gotopia.tech Read the full transcription of this interview here: https://gotopia.tech/articles/336 Charity Majors - CTO at honeycomb.io & Co-Author of "Observability Engineering" @CharityMajors James Lewis - Software Architect & Director at Thoughtworks @thoughtworks RESOURCES Charity / mipsytipsy https://github.com/charity / charity-majors https://charity.wtf James https://bsky.app/profile/boicy.bovon.org / boicy / james-lewis-microservices https://github.com/boicy https://www.bovon.org Links • Is It Time To Version Observability? (Sign... • Observability Engineering • Charity Majors... • The Sociotechnical Path to High-Performing... • The Best Programmer I Know • Daniel Terhor... • Millisecond Full Stack Acceptance Tests • ... • How to Read Complex Code? • Felienne Herma... • I Can Sell You Observability, But You Can'... • How Flow Works • James Lewis • GOTO 2024 • What Is This OpenTelemetry Thing? • Martin... • Data Mesh: Data-Driven Value at Scale • Zh... • A Short Summary of the Last Decades of Dat... • Using Serverless & ARM64 for Real-Time Obs... • An Introduction to Systems & Service Monit... • More Buzzwords Won't Help: The Long Histor... • Platform Strategy • Gregor Hohpe & James L... • Gamification, Sys. Thinking & the Power of... DESCRIPTION What’s next in the observability space? Join Charity Majors and James Lewis as they discuss canonical logs, Observability 2.0 and how to simplify complexity in software engineering! TIMECODES 00:00 Intro 00:51 Intro to observability & version change 07:36 Shift toward observability-driven development 17:14 Canonical Logs 24:58 Observability & the future of SW Dev 29:12 Outro RECOMMENDED BOOKS Charity Majors, Liz Fong-Jones & George Miranda • Observability Engineering • https://amzn.to/38scbma Charity Majors & Laine Campbell • Database Reliability Engineering • https://amzn.to/3ujybdS Kelly Shortridge & Aaron Rinehart • Security Chaos Engineering • https://www.verica.io/sce-book Nora Jones & Casey Rosenthal • Chaos Engineering • https://amzn.to/3hUmuAH Russ Miles • Learning Chaos Engineering • https://amzn.to/3hCiUe8 Nicole Forsgren, Jez Humble & Gene Kim • Accelerate • https://amzn.to/442Rep0 / gotocon / goto- / goto_con / gotoconferences #Observability #Observability2 #Reliability #Logging #CanonicalLogs #Prometheus #Datadog #PlatformEngineering #TDD #AcceptanceTest #DataManagement #DevOps #SoftwareEngineering #Programming #ChairtyMajors #JamesLewis CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: / @goto- Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket at https://gotopia.tech Sign up for updates and specials at https://gotopia.tech/newsletter SUBSCRIBE TO OUR CHANNEL - new videos posted almost daily. https://www.youtube.com/user/GotoConf...