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#Unlocked #madelynblair #resilience #learning #education Summary -- Many of us were taught that if something comes easily, it can’t be meaningful—but this episode challenges that assumption. Madelyn Blair sits down with storyteller and naturalist Coral Conant Gilles to explore learning that is relational, embodied, and alive. Through vivid stories—children in mud, animal tracks, and the Missoula Floods—you’ll hear why curiosity and imagination matter more than standardized outcomes. In Grounds for Thought, Madelyn connects Carl’s work to Humberto Maturana’s view of learning as transformation: not something we acquire, but something we become through experience and relationship. In this episode you will: Rethink the belief that real contribution must involve sacrifice—and why “ease” can signal deep purpose and value. Discover how storytelling activates imagination, empathy, and problem-solving in ways facts alone rarely do. Learn why nature-based learning can be profoundly regulating, connecting, and even “equalizing” for young people. Explore a transformative view of learning: not transferring knowledge, but reorganizing ourselves through lived experience, practice, and relationship. Guest introduction -- Coral Conant Gilles is a storytelling naturalist who designs learning experiences that weave together oral storytelling, nature connection, imagination, and play. She brings stories “from the heart”—using voice, body, and presence—often pairing them with hands-on activities like animal tracking and outdoor exploration. Coral's work helps children (and adults) build curiosity, empathy, and connection with themselves, each other, and the natural world, creating the conditions for learning that is meaningful and lasting. She is also the creator of programs including Four Women Telling (online) and seasonal community gatherings in the Madison area, with details available through her website: carlconangillis.com. Timestamps -- 0:00 Opening 5:00 Background 6:00 Tracking 8:24 Why Storytelling 9:45 Missoula floods and comprehension 12:49 audience reactions 15:01 neural coupling 16:34 showing up with a story as an educator 18:50 moving outdoors into the reality of nature 19:50 nature of nature 21:00 story of the mud pit 24:00 curiosity and learning 25:48 impact of access of information and why curiosity is a real necessity 28:32 learning other topics through stories 29:18 factories in choosing the right story 30:24 the story arc and the compass 33:23 finding your voice and the birds 35:42 the value of the work and 1000 books before kindergarten 38:00 story of oak tree, wonder, and curiosity 40:00 imagination is the root of problem solving and empathy 43:27 we are all storytellers 44:46 connection between nature and storytelling 44:53 closing