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I thought this conversation was going to be about meetings. And it was. But it turned out to be about something much larger: a fundamental redesign of power in organizations. Sheella Mierson, PhD is a scientist-turned-organizational-consultant whose whole practice is built on a simple, subversive premise: meetings are a window into culture, and if you can fix the meeting, you can fix the culture. Henry Herschel brings a complementary lens — a business background helping packaged goods startups navigate the journey from entrepreneurial chaos to IPO — now applied to the fascinating challenge of governing a Jewish co-housing community in Berkeley called Berkeley Moshav. And I came to this with skin in the game. I spent nine years in co-housing myself, in a 22-household community in Durham, North Carolina. So I know firsthand how quickly idealistic visions of communal living can devolve into parking disputes, pet policy standoffs, and festering factions. What Sheella and Henry are describing — the governance framework called Sociocracy — is the most elegant answer I've encountered to the question of how groups of passionate, opinionated people (and let's be honest, co-housing and startups both attract people with very strong opinions) can make real decisions together without anyone losing their mind or their dignity. Sociocracy was developed by Gerard Endenburg, a Dutch electrical engineer who looked at a traditional organizational chart and said: I would never design a power system this way. There's no feedback loop. You can't steer it. What he built instead is a system of distributed decision-making, structured rounds, consent (not consensus), and built-in review cycles that treat every policy as an experiment rather than a decree. After this conversation, I've been thinking about what a Sociocratic world might look like. The question that keeps haunting me: what could Google or Meta or Microsoft contribute and stand for if all their talented, idealistic people had a real say in what they built? Topics We Cover Meetings as Cultural Diagnostics 1. "Show me a meeting and I'll tell you what your culture is like" — why fixing meetings is a route into fixing everything 2. The difference between meetings that drain and meetings that build What Sociocracy Actually Is 1. Gerard Endenburg's insight: a traditional org chart has no feedback loop, so it can't self-correct 2. How distributed decision-making gives everyone a say in the policies that affect their work 3. Why Endenburg built the system to run his own electrical contracting company — and what that has to do with power grids Consent vs. Consensus: A Crucial Distinction 1. Why Sociocracy doesn't seek agreement — it seeks the absence of paramount objections 2. "Is this good enough to try?" as a more useful question than "Does everyone love this?" 3. How consent decision-making short-circuits faction formation The Structure of a Policy Meeting 1. Clarifying questions round → Reaction round → Consent round 2. Why having a proposal that's well-thought-out before the meeting matters enormously 3. What happens when someone raises an objection — and why that's the point, not a problem Policy Meetings vs. Operational Meetings 1. The crucial two-track system: setting guidelines vs. coordinating work 2. Why mixing these up is a recipe for frustration and dysfunction 3. The third type: picture-forming meetings, where you gather information before you can even shape a proposal Feedback Loops Built Into the System 1. Every policy has a lifespan, success metrics, and a built-in review date 2. Why "we've always done it that way" becomes structurally impossible 3. How the system surfaces problems without requiring someone to be brave enough to speak up Circles and Distributed Authority 1. How circles (teams with defined domains) make decisions within agreed-upon boundaries 2. Why this frees up the whole group from having to weigh in on everything 3. How information flows between circles — and how a frontline idea can reach the board Real-World Application: Berkeley Moshav 1. Parking, kashrut, pets — the hot-button issues that tested the model 2. Henry on the learning curve: making errors, getting over the hump, building momentum 3. Why having about a third of the community fully competent in Sociocracy is enough to carry the whole What This Could Mean for Your Organization 1. How a manager and direct report can run a two-person policy meeting as equals 2. Why people who feel heard stop building factions 3. A thought experiment: if the employees of major tech companies had real voice, would they be building the same things? Resources Mierson Consulting (https://www.miersonconsulting.com/) — Sheella's practice The Sociocracy Consulting Group (https://www.sociocracyconsulting.com/) — Sheella's group practice, and where to find training courses including Foundations of Sociocracy and Facilitating Sociocr...