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00:00:00 Tribute to Jack McAuliffe 00:01:40 Begin History Talk 00:11:00 Tough times at Heileman's 00:13:02 Dissolved Oxygen 00:34:35 Special Export 00:41:35 Prohibition and NA Beer 00:54:30 Shifters - drinking on shifts 01:14:18 Hops, Brewer Bob, and Sierra Nevada 02:17:12 Lager Beers and a Yeast Genius 02:29:49 James Page and Rice Beer 02:46:46 Guardians of the Granite Stones - Stein Beer Two of the grand dads of brewing in Wisconsin talk about their start from QA with Heileman's, to brewing, to traveling, to the evolution of brewing equipment and beer styles, to the evolution of what people want. Randy Hughes (Brewmaster Heileman's to City Brewery), and Kirby Nelson (Capital Brewery to Wisconsin Brewing) discuss the history and evolution of brewing. Key points include: Jack McAuliffe's Legacy: The discussion opens with a tribute to Jack McAuliffe, who established the first microbrewery in 1976, significantly influencing the craft beer industry before exiting it after closing his brewery. Brewing History and Personal Stories: Randy and Kirby share personal experiences and historical insights about the brewing industry. Topics range from early microbreweries to the challenges faced by larger breweries like Heileman's, including ownership changes (e.g., by Alan Bond) and the impact of Prohibition. Technical Aspects: The conversation covers brewing techniques, such as using adjuncts like corn grits and rice, the development of quality assurance departments, and innovative processes like Stein beer using heated stones. It also mentions the use of specific equipment and the evolution of beer styles, including lagers and IPAs. Industry Evolution: The speakers discuss the decline of regional breweries, the rise of craft beer, and the shift toward milder, traditional styles. They note the impact of market changes, including the popularity of light beers and non-alcoholic options, and the challenges of maintaining brand loyalty amid a diverse market. Cultural and Anecdotal Elements: Anecdotes include workplace drinking cultures, the use of unique ingredients like wild rice, and humorous incidents, such as a worker eating wet wipes. The discussion also touches on community involvement, like the "Guardians of the Granite" event, and the influence of figures like Chris Zacharias from the University of Wisconsin on lager yeast research. Overall, the transcript reflects a blend of nostalgia, technical expertise, and commentary on the brewing industry's past, present, and future.