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For the last two decades, Debra Messing — the star of early 2000’s hit Will & Grace — has been something of a liberal Hollywood icon, courting an adoring gay audience and getting into public feuds with Donald Trump. More recently, she’s become the face of Liberal Zionism, an ideology which believes in human rights in the US while supporting Israel’s flagrant violation of them in Gaza. Sound confusing? The contradictions inherent to Liberal Zionism are too big for anyone to hold onto — even, it turns out, the winner of a GLAAD award. Listen to bonus episodes on Patreon! / mattbernstein Thanks to today’s sponsors! Join the fight to get religion OUT of public schools at www.ffrf.us/school or text FREEDOM to 511511. Start managing your money better and cancel unwanted expenses at https://www.rocketmoney.com/fruity. Listen to Matt Lieb on Bad Hasbara: https://open.spotify.com/show/5RDvo87... Follow Matt Lieb on Twitter: https://x.com/mattlieb Listen to Emma on The Majority Report: / @themajorityreport Follow Emma on Twitter: https://x.com/emmavigeland Find me on Instagram. / mattxiv Find A Bit Fruity on Instagram. / abitfruitypod CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro: WHAT is Liberal Zionism + WHO is Debra Messing? 15:15 Debra Messing was a #Resistance Icon 27:25 Freedom From Religion Foundation! 29:17 Can Zionism be liberal? 46:07 Debra Unravels 54:23 WHERE do all these Hollywood open letter come from? 59:13 Shoutout Rocket Money :-) 1:00:54 Debra takes a hard right turn 1:21:06 Charlie Kirk and POLITICAL HOMELESSNESS! 1:34:29 Conclusion: There exists a better offramp for Liberal Zionists. :)