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JD Vance once called Trump “America’s Hitler” so why did he join MAGA? In this episode of Cults, Culture, & Coercion, Dr. Steven Hassan interviews JD Vance's relative, Nikki McCarty on Christian nationalism, Pentecostal indoctrination, and authoritarian extremism. Nikki McCarty, JD Vance's relative and the “childless cat lady” he often refers to, shares her firsthand experience growing up in a high-control Christian nationalist environment shaped by purity culture, rapture theology, emotional manipulation, and media control. They also explore Nikki’s relationship to JD Vance’s family and her shock at watching his public political evolution from condemning Trump and warning of fascism, to embracing the MAGA movement. Nikki reflects on how hopeful she once felt that Vance might become a bridge between divided family members and how her hope collapsed as his rhetoric became increasingly extreme. This episode also discusses Nikki’s late autism diagnosis, her experience coming out as a member of the LGBT community after growing up in homophobic religious culture, and the painful reality of family estrangement in an era of political polarization. Together, they explore how mind control dynamics don’t just exist in “cults,” but can operate inside religious movements, political ecosystems, and modern media environments. In this conversation, Dr. Hassan and Nikki McCarty examine: Nikki’s upbringing in Christian nationalism and Pentecostal-style high control religion How rapture theology and the "Left Behind" worldview shape fear-based thinking Seven Mountain Dominionism and the belief in taking over government, media, and society How behavioral control shaped education, friendships, and identity Purity culture, sexual repression, and religious control of women’s bodies Thought stopping techniques, fear conditioning, and “God is good” indoctrination Speaking in tongues, prophecy, and falling “under the Spirit” as a form of group influence MLM/pyramid scheme exploitation inside church communities Autism diagnosis later in life and the power of understanding neurodivergence Family estrangement and the emotional toll of political polarization JD Vance’s transformation from “Never Trump” to Trump’s political ally 🔔 Subscribe for expert interviews and analysis on cults, coercive control, authoritarianism, propaganda, and psychological manipulation. Learn more about Nikki McCarty on Substack: https://nikkimccarty9.substack.com IMPORTANT ADDENDUM FROM NIKKI: Nikki asked us to clarify that while she believes in the possibility of redemption, she believes there is no “redemption arc” for J.D. Vance without full justice for the Epstein survivors. She emphasized that the only way he can begin to mitigate the harm he has enabled is by supporting accountability for traffickers and abusers, regardless of power or party, and ending the protection of pedophiles and the silencing of victims. Chapters: 0:00 JD Vance, Trump, and “America’s Hitler” 0:33 Nikki McCarty’s background and connection to JD Vance 4:21 The killing of Renee Good and ICE authoritarianism 7:40 JD Vance’s family history and early estrangement 9:33 Christian nationalism and Seven Mountain Dominionism 11:36 Rapture theology, Left Behind ideology, and fear-based indoctrination 15:50 Steven Hassan’s Moonies experience and cult identity 24:16 Using the BITE Model to analyze religious upbringing 25:47 Purity culture, education control, and restricting friendships 27:24 MLM exploitation and pyramid schemes inside church culture 29:08 Constant services, immersion, and behavioral control 31:35 Generational curses, shame, and withholding forgiveness 32:58 Medical neglect, MS diagnosis, and “pray it away” control 38:55 Thought stopping, guilt, and blaming the victim 40:35 Speaking in tongues and falling “under the Spirit” 43:01 Autism diagnosis later in life 43:41 Coming out while raised in homophobic religious culture 52:16 Hillbilly Elegy, JD Vance’s shift, and political extremism 58:52 Estrangement, isolation, and hope for healing #JDVance #ChristianNationalism #StevenHassan #CultsCultureAndCoercion #MindControl #BITEModel #UndueInfluence #Trump #MAGA #CultPsychology #ReligiousTrauma #Pentecostal #Dominionism #SevenMountains #Rapture #LeftBehind #PurityCulture #Autism #Neurodivergent #FamilyEstrangement #Authoritarianism ******************************************** Learn more at: https://freedomofmind.com/ Subscribe to The Influence Continuum podcast: https://freedomofmind.com/podcast-3/ Enroll in our courses - https://courses.freedomofmind.com/col... Download a .pdf of the BITE model here! https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-c... Subscribe to the Freedom of Mind newsletter: https://freedomofmind.com/subscribe/ Read or listen to Dr. Hassan's books: https://freedomofmind.com/books/