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Subscribe to the channel for more exclusive entertainment content: https://bit.ly/4jOsqJ9 Is this really about men and women? A Roundtable discussion on gender, safety and masculinity in a system that rewards silence and fuels conflict. One table. Zero judgement. No easy answers. Featuring; Ehiz Efuah, Sukaina Louisa, Busayo Twins, L’myah Sherae, Gabriel Bernard & Stephanie McNeil. CHAPTERS 00:00 – The Pressure on Men Sukaina opens by explaining how expectations around masculinity leave many men emotionally stuck, disconnected, and unsure how to show up. 01:10 – When Masculinity Stops Working Busayo responds by unpacking how old ideas of providing and power no longer fit today’s economic and social reality. 02:20 – Why This Isn’t Men vs Women Sukaina reframes the issue as systemic rather than personal, arguing the real problem isn’t women — it’s the rules men were taught. 03:35 – The Cost of Gender Wars Busayo and Sukaina discuss how “us vs them” thinking deepens confusion, resentment, and withdrawal on both sides. 04:55 – What Safety Really Means L’myah shifts the conversation to safety, explaining why fear shapes everyday behaviour for women — and why safer environments matter for everyone. 06:05 – Beyond the Binary Busayo highlights how rigid gender boxes harm trans and gender-diverse people, and why dismantling them benefits the whole community. 07:15 – Imagining a Healthier Future Stephanie shares what a world without gender wars could look like — one built on openness, therapy, and emotional honesty. 07:55 – Representation Shapes Behaviour Gabriel reflects on how media portrayals of men and women influence identity, confidence, and expectations. 08:45 – Where Men Find Community Gabriel talks about faith, friendship and safe spaces as places men turn to when they feel rejected or lost. 09:35 – Responsibility in the Spotlight Ehiz discusses the responsibility creators carry when shaping narratives around gender, masculinity and culture. 10:30 – Listening Without an Agenda Ehiz and Busayo emphasise the power of men and women learning to listen to each other without defensiveness or fear. 11:45 – Moving Forward Together The group closes by agreeing that progress starts with communication, empathy, and letting go of outdated roles. CREDITS Director of Photography: Maddie Henri Series Producer: Laura Craig Series Director: Brigid Mcfall Producer Director: Aaron Lloyd Researcher: Natalie Whitmore Editor: Toby Nutter Series Producer: Bec Gourlay Executive Producer: James Walker Casting By: LEVILE Additional Casting By: Vivian Eguridu, Tonye Mak Camera Operators: Carla Grande, Katrina Lehismae, Nial Barrett Gaffer: Marta Vitola Sparks: Ibiwunmi Balogun, Sasha Hunter Spark Trainee: Evie Shrimpton Supervising Sound Editor: James Hynes Sound Recordist: Roman Jakubik Sound Assistant: Abdal Hussein Digital Imaging Technician: George Lawrence Production Design: Wet Studio Art Director: Anja Maye Art Assistant: Ozzie Mercedes Colourist: Freddie Reed Graphics: Isabella Walker Original Music: Drew Archie Make Up Artist: Tashana Francis Photographer: Kadir Gold Production Coordinator: Cara Smith Location Assistants: Alex Bullock, Mairéad Ruane Filmed on Location at: Hackney Studios With Thanks: The Sound Directors, LEVILE, S+O Media, Greenkit The views and opinions expressed in this series are those of the guests and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of Four8. If you have been affected by any of the topics discussed on this episode, please see a list of support organisations below. National Domestic Abuse Helpline Free 24-7 helpline 0808 2000 247 [https://www.nationaldahelpline.org.uk](https://www.nationaldahelpline.org.uk/) Rights Of Women https://www.rightsofwomen.org.uk/get-... Telephone advice lines provide free and confidential legal advice for women Young Women’s Trust Free career support and coaching for women aged 18 to 30 https://www.youngwomenstrust.org/get-... Fawcett Society charity Campaigning for women’s rights and gender equality [[https://www.fawcettsociety.org.uk](https://www.fawcettsociety.org.uk/)] (https://www.fawcettsociety.org.uk/) __ Four8TV is a place for original UK Culture and Entertainment content. TikTok: / four8stories Instagram: / four8stories Subscribe! https://bit.ly/4jOsqJ9