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For 37signals, flashy ad campaigns and traditional brand promos have never been the way to go. This week, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson share why traditional marketing methods like billboards, paid social media posts, and keyword ads don’t give them results. They talk about how meaningful marketing comes from genuine support and real connection. Key Takeaways 00:00 – Episode Highlights 00:52 – Why marketing ROI looks different for every business 11:50 – Spend your marketing budget on companies and people you believe in 19:14 – What kinds of marketing actually does work for 37signals 30:20 – How AI is unintentionally making the authentic human stand out Links and Resources Record or upload a video question for Jason and David — https://www.37signals.com/podcastques... Get a free Basecamp account at https://www.basecamp.com Books by 37signals – https://37signals.com/books 30-day free trial of HEY – https://www.hey.com/ Once. com – https://once.com/ Campfire – https://once.com/campfire HEY – https://www.hey.com/ The REWORK podcast – https://37signals.com/podcast/ Get some REWORK podcast merch – https://37signals.com/podcast/shop Let's be social! Twitter/X: https://x.com/37signals Instagram: / 37signalshq Rework is a production of 37signals. You can find show notes and transcripts on our website https://www.37signals.com/ Leave us a video question at www.37signals.com/podcastquestion or send an email to [email protected], and we might answer it on a future episode.