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Support our work: http://novara.media/support Dan Wang is a technology analyst and author whose life experience, spent partly in North America, partly in China, sets him up as an authoritative observer of the differences and similarities between the American and Chinese empires. In conversation with Aaron Bastani, Wang shares his thesis that elite overproduction of engineers in China, and lawyers in America, can explain the traits of each empire as they face down the 21st century, from high speed rail and housing, to lockdown policy and manufacturing strategy. Why has China been able to roll out high speed rail while America hasn’t? Why does so much of the anglophone world appear to be living in the ruins of industrial society? How did the one child policy come into being and has there been any reparation for the atrocities committed in its name? And is China today fundamentally left or right wing? 00:00 Intro 02:37 China’s Technological Rise 11:06 The Engineering State and the Lawyerly Society 21:46 Militarism and Technology 27:13 Case Study: High Speed Rail 34:03 The Post Industrial Ruin of the Anglophone World 43:20 Is China Left or Right Wing? 58:40 The Importance of Renewing Practical Knowledge 01:06:15 The Problems with the Engineering State 01:18:25 The One Child Policy 01:32:11 Zero-Covid and its Failings 01:40:54 Renewables 01:47:14:11 Microprocessors 01:56:04 What Happens if China Invades Taiwan?