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Waleed’s interest in technology began at a very young age, driven by a curiosity about how things work rather than just using them. His path into cybersecurity started as a "script kiddie," where he used pre-written online scripts to attempt tasks like hacking Wi-Fi or social media accounts. A major turning point occurred when he hacked his school's Learning Management System (LMS) and, instead of causing trouble, used the experience to seek guidance. This led him to a mentor who introduced him to ethical hacking and the importance of learning theoretical fundamentals rather than just running scripts. A significant portion of the discussion focuses on the differences between education systems: • The Pakistani System: Waleed notes that it is often grade-oriented and rigid, with students sometimes learning outdated or irrelevant material, such as basic Excel, which does not satisfy their enthusiasm for tech. • Self-Learning and Mentorship: He emphasizes that he learned coding primarily through self-learning and that a teacher’s role should be to act as a mentor who helps solve specific problems rather than just assigning repetitive homework. • International Experience: Having attended a machine learning camp at Northwestern University, he observed a stark contrast where students were encouraged to learn at their own pace without formal books or traditional homework, fostering a more innovative environment. Advice for Students and Parents Waleed and the host critique the "rat race" for Ivy League schools in Pakistan, noting that students often create "fake" activities just to bolster their applications. He suggests that students should choose universities based on specific facilities (like supercomputers or specialized programs) and their own needs rather than just brand names. For parents, the takeaway is to provide space and support for their children’s interests without pressuring them into traditional paths like medicine or engineering. Waleed himself spends up to 27 hours at a time on his laptop, not as "hard work," but because he genuinely finds coding fun. Future Vision Waleed's goal is to remain a lifelong "runner" in the tech marathon, focusing on the joy of coding and helping others. He hopes to use his skills to improve the tech landscape in Pakistan, particularly in areas like AI and education, and encourages students to remain curious to find their own passions.