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Send us a text (https://www.buzzsprout.com/twilio/tex...) I met Mark Shaiken when he was referred to me by a mutual friend who thought he might be a good fit for my podcast. Thank you Cristin Crampton Day! I was intrigued by Mark’s transition from a bankruptcy attorney to author. I wondered just how good of a writer he might be so I replied to Mark asking for a couple of his SIX books to sample. I read with amazement his samples of his two books of essays, “And Just Like That (https://www.amazon.com/Just-Like-That...) ,” and “It’s What Makes Me Me – A Retired Attorney’s Relationship with Life and Times (https://www.amazon.com/Its-What-Makes...) .” Both are moving, easy to read, funny and caused me to move into useful introspection. I then listened on Audible to one of his four legal thriller books, “Cram Down (https://www.audible.com/pd/Cram-Down-...) .” I enjoyed the unique story! I decided there was a ton I wanted to talk with Mark about including: • How did you shift your identity from that of an attorney to that of an author? • What did those around you think of this transition to a completely different focus at the time in life when most people are settling back? Such a great conversation! Read my Blog (https://stubbornlyyoung.com/my-rules-...) called Rules For Being Stubbornly Young and let me know what you think! Email your thoughts at dave@stubbornlyyoung.com (mailto:dave@stubbornlyyoung.com) Check out where it’s all happening on the Stubbornly Young website (https://stubbornlyyoung.com/) Thanks and looking forward to hearing how you’re remaining stubbornly young!