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What if spycraft wasn’t just for secret agents, but for everyone? In this revealing and thought-provoking episode of Spybrary, former British intelligence operativer Julian Fisher joins Spybrary Host Shane Whaley to discuss the central thesis of his book, Think Like a Spy: that spy skills can be taught and used in everyday life. Join the Spybrary Community - https://spybrary.com/join-our-community/ Buy The Book - Think Like A Spy - https://geni.us/jC4ke From mastering influence and reading people to building trust and understanding motivations, Fisher makes the case that espionage tactics aren't about deception—they're about a deeper human connection. Along the way, Fisher shares his personal journey, including his principled resignation over the Iraq War, insights from his time in both government and private intelligence, and his take on what popular spy fiction gets right (and wrong). Whether you're in business, leadership, sales, or want to understand people better, this episode is packed with wisdom, humour, and insights. ⏱️ Timestamps & Segments 00:00 — Conscience and Resignation Why Julian left government service over the Iraq War. 00:36 — Can Anyone Think Like a Spy? Exploring knowledge, aptitude, and temperament. 07:40 — A Spy's Unlikely Origin Story From Birmingham to Oxford to the intelligence world. 13:47 — The 9 Core Spy Skills Fisher breaks down the agent recruitment cycle into real-life skills. 14:50 — Why "Cover" is Just Personal Branding How to present your story for influence and connection. 18:11 — Visualization, Acting & Impact Tactical preparation tips from the world of espionage and tradecraft. 22:00 — Elicitation: The Power of Listening 28:02 — Making Difficult Ethical Decisions How to stay aligned with your values in morally grey situations. 48:42 — Real-Life Spycraft: Meeting New People How Fisher subtly assesses others using soft techniques. 59:52 — Reality vs Fiction: Do Spies Flash Badges? Addressing myths around spy identification and surveillance. 1:02:12 — What Spy Fiction Gets Wrong His critique of Slow Horses and the importance of realism. 1:09:35 — Books That Get It Right Which spy novels reflect real espionage experience? 1:19:20 — Should You Become a Spy? Why your motivations matter more than your skills. 1:26:05 — Secrecy, Transparency, and Trust Why former spies can’t always say they were spies—and why that matters. 🔑 Key Topics The agent recruitment cycle: targeting, cultivation, recruitment, handling Knowledge, aptitude, and temperament as pillars of espionage "Cover" as authentic personal branding Elicitation techniques and the power of silence Visualization, rehearsal, and preparation as influence multipliers Moral integrity in intelligence careers Trust-based communication in life and leadership The dangers of "government by gaslight" Spy fiction accuracy: what rings true and what breaks the illusion 📚 Resources & Mentions Think Like a Spy by Julian Fisher Julian’s Substack: https://julianfisher.substack.com Website: https://www.julesfisher.com Stars and Spies Leadership Lab (with Louise Osborne) / julian-fisher-67161920_leadership-thinklik...