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What does it mean to lead with kindness in a world that often rewards outrage? In this episode of Laugh or Death, Paul sits down with bestselling author, speaker, and kindness advocate Shola Richards to talk about civility, leadership, and the power of treating people well — even when we disagree. Shola shares stories from his work speaking around the world and advising organizations on building cultures rooted in respect, compassion, and accountability. Together, he and Paul explore why kindness isn’t weakness, how humor can diffuse tension, and why civility may be one of the most powerful leadership tools we have today. The conversation also touches on navigating disagreement, building healthier communities, and why the way we treat each other matters far beyond the workplace. If you’ve ever wondered how to stay human in a world that often feels divided, this episode offers thoughtful perspective — and a few laughs along the way. Links: If you enjoyed this episode and want to build your own humor habit, make sure to follow the podcast and share it with someone who could use a little more levity in their life. To learn more about Paul’s work, book him for speaking engagements, or explore the science behind humor and resilience, visit: 👉 https://www.paulosincup.com You can also dive deeper into the tools discussed in this episode in Paul’s book: 👉 The Humor Habit Guest: https://sholarichards.com Episode Minute-By-Minute: 00:00 – Introducing Shola Richards 01:30 – The Mission Behind Civility and Kindness 03:00 – Why Treating People Well Matters 05:00 – Humor as a Tool for Connection 07:00 – Navigating Disagreement with Humanity 10:00 – The Power of Kindness in Leadership 13:00 – Civility in Public Discourse 16:00 – Why Respect Matters Even When We Disagree 19:00 – The Role of Humor in Difficult Conversations 23:00 – How Leaders Model Human Behavior 27:00 – Why Kindness Is Not Weakness 31:00 – The Ripple Effect of Treating People Well 35:00 – Shola’s Final Thoughts