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Two brilliant minds talk to me about Bill's Theory of "Embedded Intelligence" which seems to suggest the fundamentality of intelligence (rather than, say, consciousness) and also the continuity of humanity with technology - both being embodiments of "free intelligence" that in our case, becomes subjectivized. Bill also uses the term "objective intelligence". Ted offers some tight criticisms and we also explore Kant, Lucretius, Religion, Metaphysics and the limits of knowledge, this is a wide ranging conversation and seems to have laid the foundations for future explorations with the wider Chelsoph group! Useful links: Bill's awesome Mensch Foundation Website: https://themenschfoundation.org/who-i... The excellent Bill Mensch interview with Bernardo and Hans from the Essentia Foundation: • What Came Before the Big Bang? | Theory of... Prof Ted Humphrey's academic profile: https://search.asu.edu/profile/42998 Links to Ted's extensive list of publications on a wide variety of subjects! https://philpapers.org/s/Ted%20Humphrey Science of Consciousness Conference (also featuring Stuart Hameroff and Dante Laretto's fascinating work) • TSC2022 - Workshop 5 - Embedded Intelligence #metaphysics #chrisfields #science #philosophy #quantumphysics #quantum #mathematics #mathematics #freeenergyprinciple #activeinference #biology #chelsoph #cheltenham #mathgrayuk #philosophy #metaphysics #science #podcast