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In this heartfelt episode of Holding Space with Authentically Amy, Amy sits down with Tobie Spears, founder of the nonprofit Be Humanitarian, to explore the often-overlooked tension between doing meaningful work and meeting personal financial needs. Tobie shares her journey of providing meals, gardens, jobs, and security to families in Guatemala, while candidly opening up about the struggle of not paying herself, despite leading life-changing efforts. Together, they unpack the guilt and societal expectations nonprofit leaders often carry, and Amy gently encourages Tobie to consider a new path: one that allows her to serve while also being sustained. You’ll also hear: How Be Humanitarian empowers communities through sponsorships and volunteer programs Practical insights on nonprofit leadership, boundaries, and self-worth Whether you’re a nonprofit leader, aspiring change-maker, or someone trying to balance purpose and survival, this episode will give you permission to rethink what it means to give, receive, and lead with heart. Learn more about Be Humanitarian here: https://www.behumanitarian.org / be.humanitarian / behumanitarian.org / behumanitarian https://linktr.ee/behumanitarian Learn more about Amy, apply to be a guest on the podcast, or schedule a personal Holding Space session for yourself, your business, school, community, organization, etc. here: https://www.getamyshelp.com / amythurman / amycthurman / amy.thurman1 https://www.tiktok.com/authenticallyamy / @iamauthenticallyamy