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Recorded at Solana Breakpoint in Abu Dhabi, Ledger's chief experience officer Ian Rogers joined Bijan Maleki to talk about the need to properly secure our digital assets, how far crypto adoption has come, why blockchain could be an invaluable tool for proving identity in a AI world, and why the company has changed the terminology for its products from "hardware wallets" to "signers". Recorded on December 11, 2025. 🔥 Download Raoul Pal's 5-year investing roadmap for free: https://rvtv.io/41fVHWF Chapters: 00:00 – Live From Solana Breakpoint Abu Dhabi: Ledger, Security & Crypto Adoption 01:28 – TradFi Meets Crypto: 30 Years of Sustainable Growth Ahead 02:21 – Stablecoin Yield, Onramps & Why “Boring” Is Bullish 03:22 – Ledger as a Global Bank Replacement: Payments, Yield & Spending 03:42 – From Bitcoin Cold Storage to Tokenized Stocks & Assets 04:29 – Why Real Adoption Happens When Tech Gets Boring 05:34 – Paying With Crypto in the Real World: Zcash, ETH & On-The-Fly Conversion 06:32 – Digital Identity in the AI Era: Impersonation & Proof of Ownership 07:30 – Why Passwords, Phones & Apps Are Fundamentally Insecure 09:16 – Proof of Identity, Deepfakes & Trust on the Internet 10:11 – What Actually Drives Hardware Wallet Adoption 11:01 – Education vs Getting Wrecked: How Users Learn About Security 12:12 – Why Browser Wallets and Phones Can Lie to You 13:05 – Crypto UX Is Finally Good Enough for Mass Adoption 14:33 – Ledger’s Evolution: From Bitcoin Device to Financial OS 15:18 – What Makes Ledger Architecturally More Secure 16:24 – Why Ledger Calls Devices “Signers,” Not Wallets 17:00 – New Ledger Devices: Flex, Stax & Nano Gen 5 Explained 18:19 – Choosing the Right Ledger: Price Points & Use Cases 20:13 – Ledger’s 2026 Roadmap: UX, Identity & Active Usage 21:23 – Using Ledger for Identity, Passwords & Daily Security 22:20 – Ledger Multi-Sig: Closing the Gap Between Retail & Enterprise 23:28 – Biggest Security Lesson for Crypto Users 24:05 – Operational Security: Planning for Worst-Case Scenarios 25:10 – Why Hardware Wallets Are Non-Negotiable in Crypto 26:11 – Final Thoughts: Security, Self-Custody & What Comes Next 🍌 Get your Banana Zone swag at the Real Vision merch store: https://shop.realvision.com 📣 Elevate your brand with Real Vision. Connect with us at partnerships@realvision.com to explore advertising possibilities. About Real Vision™: We arm you with the knowledge, the tools, and the network to succeed in your financial journey. 🔥 Get 𝗙𝗥𝗘𝗘 𝗔𝗖𝗖𝗘𝗦𝗦 to Real Vision https://rvtv.io/3YOZZUe Connect with Real Vision™ Online: Twitter: https://rvtv.io/twitter Instagram: https://rvtv.io/instagram Website: 🔥 https://rvtv.io/3Y4t5Pw Disclaimer: https://media.realvision.com/wp/20231... #bitcoin #btc #cryptonews #markets #macro #crypto #cryptocurrencies #btcnews #useconomy #trump #china #altseason #alts #altcoins #trump #cryptorally #ethereum #eth #ether #sui #solana #sol #cardano #ada #xrp #hype #hyperliquid #bnb #binance #coinbase #inflation #fed #powell #rates #economy #ledger #ianrogers