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The Grand Burstin have discustingly replaced their awesome Kone M series lifts. The lift to floor 12 has been modernized by Orona. The lifts to floor 6 have been replaced with Oronas. The lift to floor 7 is currently being replaced. Usually I like Oronas, but the buttons on the lift to floor 12 are already looking worn, also one of the buttons has already broken, and the lift isn't running to well, even though it has only just been modernized (The modernization work isn't even finished yet on the last lift, the first one can't have long been modernized). I usually like Oronas, but these ones are not working too well. I have heard mixed views about Oronas, there are some people on the internet that have had a poor experience with them. Oronas seem to have mixed reliability. They seem to work well in situations where they are not heavily used, and they look far better than any crap generic. But of course, a nice 80s Kone will beat an Orona any day. http://beno.org.uk