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What Did Frederick Douglass Really Think of Abraham Lincoln?

What Did Frederick Douglass Really Think of Abraham Lincoln? Discover the complex relationship between two of America's most influential figures in this revealing conversation about a groundbreaking new book. Historians John White and Lucas Morel unveil previously unknown letters and documents that transform our understanding of how Frederick Douglass viewed Abraham Lincoln—from harsh critic to reluctant admirer. Featured Guests: Dr. Jonathan White, Professor of American Studies at Christopher Newport University and co-winner of the 2023 Gilder Lehrman Lincoln Prize Dr. Lucas Morel, Professor of Politics at Washington and Lee University and trustee of the Supreme Court Historical Society What You'll Learn: *Why Douglass initially called Lincoln "the South's greatest slave hound" and "abolitionism's worst enemy" *The surprising letters revealing Douglass believed Andrew Johnson would be a better Reconstruction president than Lincoln *How three private meetings between Douglass and Lincoln changed the abolitionist's perspective Douglass's "rail-splitting" philosophy explaining Lincoln's strategic approach to black voting rights *Why Douglass spent the rest of his life honoring Lincoln's legacy despite early criticisms *The newly discovered correspondence with British abolitionists that historians hadn't seen in over 150 years White and Morel's book "Measuring the Man: The Writings of Frederick Douglass on Abraham Lincoln" compiles every known statement Douglass made about Lincoln, including a dozen previously unknown documents uncovered through digital archives and London newspaper microfilm. This episode explores themes of emancipation, political strategy, black suffrage, Civil War leadership, and the tension between radical abolitionism and practical statesmanship during America's most defining era. Get the book: https://a.co/d/1axh4FL Timetamps 00:36 Introduction to New Book: Professors John White and Lucas Morel discuss their forthcoming book "Measuring the Man: The Writings of Frederick Douglass on Abraham Lincoln" (releasing October 1st), which compiles everything Douglass wrote or said about Lincoln, expanding from an initial 40,000-word teaching resource to over 100,000 words after discovering previously unseen documents. 04:07 Groundbreaking Discoveries: Using digital databases and microfilm from London newspapers, the authors uncovered approximately a dozen new documents, including letters Douglass sent to British abolitionists that hadn't been seen in over a century, revealing he was more candid with British audiences than American ones. 06:39 Surprising Revelation About Andrew Johnson: New letters show Douglass initially expressed hope that President Johnson would be a more effective Reconstruction president than Lincoln, believing Johnson's Tennessee background and hatred of the planter class would make him tougher on the South—a view Douglass held only briefly before becoming bitterly disappointed. 19:21 Douglass's Evolving View of Lincoln: Douglass initially praised Lincoln's 1858 "House Divided" speech but became highly critical when Lincoln became president, calling him "the South's greatest slave hound" for refusing to immediately abolish slavery. However, three meetings with Lincoln during the war helped Douglass understand the political constraints Lincoln faced and appreciate his approach. 31:10 The "Rail-Splitting" Philosophy: Douglass admired how Lincoln strategically called for limited black suffrage (for educated men and veterans) rather than universal black male voting rights, comparing it to splitting rails with a wedge—starting with the thin edge to eventually get the thick edge through, a practical approach to achieving radical goals. 35:25 Final Assessment of Lincoln's Statesmanship: In his famous 1876 eulogy, Douglass acknowledged that from an abolitionist's perspective Lincoln was "slow, tardy, cold, and indifferent," but from a statesman's perspective he was "swift, zealous, radical, and determined"—obliquely admitting that Lincoln's cautious approach was necessary to preserve the Union and achieve emancipation. 41:11 Lincoln's Lasting Impact on Douglass: After Johnson's betrayal, Douglass stated that anyone claiming Johnson followed Lincoln's footsteps "casts foul dishonor on the name of Abraham Lincoln." For the rest of his life (until 1894), Douglass continued giving speeches honoring Lincoln and using his legacy to advocate for equality, liberty, and voting rights. Host: Jeff Sikkenga Executive Producer: Jeremy Gypton On Apple Podcasts: https://tr.ee/aTARALr9Gx On Spotify: https://tr.ee/09Ca21CCp- On iHeartRadio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-th...