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On the Zero Signal Podcast, the hosts preview RSA micro-events and then interview Embed Security co-founders Seth Somersett (CEO) and Jeffrey Johns (CTO), who launched the company in 2024 after careers at NSA, FireEye/Mandiant, Google, Meta, and others. They discuss the SOC’s operational crisis—thousands of daily alerts, manual triage, burnout, and uninvestigated incidents—and how Embed aims to reduce investigation time and alert noise using agentic AI with human oversight, transparency, and a “chain of evidence” that shows its reasoning. They argue the analyst role will shift toward validating AI-driven investigations, that organizational context and feedback are key, and that investigation, detection engineering, and threat hunting will converge. They cite customer results like ~90% false-positive reduction and ~155 hours saved per month, predict major disruption to MDR/MSP economics, and emphasize domain-specific models and trust-building metrics. Sponsors Thank you to our sponsors who make this show possible. → https://hamptonnorth.com/. Hampton North is the premium US-based cybersecurity search firm. → https://www.sysdig.com/. Leader in real-time AI-powered cloud security. 00:00 Podcast Welcome 00:41 RSA Micro Events 01:54 AI SOC Alert Crisis 02:47 Meet Embed Security 06:17 Why Tackle Investigation 07:50 State of Detection Today 10:43 Future SOC Analyst Role 14:35 Skills That Stand Out 19:06 Human in the Loop 22:43 Building Modern Detections 24:58 Convergence Ahead 26:26 AI Arms Race Reality 27:38 Defenders Gain New Tools 28:33 False Positives Economics 30:56 Proactive Analyst Work 31:51 MDR Market Disruption 35:03 Build Versus Buy AI 36:17 Domain Specific Models 41:46 Trust And Transparency 46:19 Measuring Trust Metrics 49:19 Customer Win Story 50:51 Lightning Round Threats 53:20 Closing Thanks