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In this fourth episode of Money Actually, host Fellexandro Ruby is joined by Aston Utan, co-founder of Common Grounds and the entrepreneur who brought Melbourne’s St. Ali brand to Indonesia. Sharing his experiences of growing up with a strict mentality about money, running a coffee business and bouncing back from failures, to investing in his team’s potential to become barista champions, Aston Utan reveals the importance of seeing the big picture beyond financial returns. In a collaboration between Manual and Fellexandro Ruby of Thirty Days of Lunch, Money Actually is a podcast series where we invite industry makers, business owners and creatives to go candid with money and its role in our relationships, emotions and decision-making process. Timestamp: 00:00 Intro 02:10 Mom's humble beginnings 06:00 Childhood money experience 10:34 Raised 'thrifty' 16:20 Learning from failures of Pandava Coffee 24:30 Investing in partnership with St. Ali 36:00 Giving : Long term view in business 44:44 "Not every opportunity comes with a paycheck" 50:18 Investing in people Host: Fellexandro Ruby 👉 / fellexandro Guest: Aston Utan 👉 / astonutan Editor-in-chief: Julius Kensan Producer: Muliadi Utomo Videographer and Editor: Ryan Rizvianto Sound Equipment: Podluck Podcast Collective Project Manager: Elizabeth Sihombing Stylist: Nauval Rifano Location : The Okura Residences Jakarta In collaboration with Manual Jakarta 👉 / manualjakarta