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Travel Before the Algorithm isn’t about clicks, top 10 lists, or scrolling fast. In this episode of #PTMPodcast, Adeeba Khalid Jadoon talks with Mark Orwoll—journalist, author, and former International Editor of Travel + Leisure—about why real travel is about asking questions, connecting with people, and writing with depth. Mark reflects on how shortcuts and constant feeds are changing how we experience the world, and why observation, curiosity, and stories that linger matter more than ever. The episode ends with a rapid-fire round that surprises even someone who’s seen it all. PTM Podcast is where global tourism meets bold ideas, real leaders, and future-focused conversations. Follow us, share your thoughts, and stay connected: Instagram: / pakistantravelmartofficial LinkedIn: / pakistan-travel-mart Facebook: / ptmexpo 0:00 – 2:20 → Opening, travel evolution & intro setup 2:21 – 4:10 → Guest introduction: Mark Orwoll & background 4:11 – 6:30 → Life in New York & personal context 6:31 – 10:40 → Traveling before internet: hitchhiking era 10:41 – 14:20 → Trust, safety & human connections in old travel days 14:21 – 17:40 → Digital convenience vs loss of curiosity 17:41 – 20:40 → Travel journalism before Google & social media 20:41 – 23:50 → Writing vividly: emotion, experience & storytelling 23:51 – 26:40 → AI, reels & future of long-form travel writing 26:41 – 29:10 → Influential travel writers & inspirations 29:11 – 31:40 → Travel magazines & editorial integrity 31:41 – 35:40 → Memoir journey: hitchhiking across Europe & Africa 35:41 – 38:10 → Life lessons from travel & human connection 38:11 – 40:10 → Modern travel culture & digital nomads 40:11 – 42:40 → Rapid fire: destinations & preferences 42:41 – 44:10 → Advice for young travelers & writers 44:11 – 45:36 → Closing Remarks