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Archivist Dave Simpson takes us back to 1990 to look at the railways, tramway and monorail at Gateshead Garden Festival. From NB : Mike - same source as the wagon plates? Maine? From MD : No, Nigel. The Katie restoration scheme of the '80's. From NB : That’s a pretty accurate description of my horn playing Dave - without notes… From GFM : The staiths are STILL very impressive - even if people keep arson about with them :( From GFM : It was YOU! From JL : 37 million today based on Bank of England inflation £83,5910 From DGWR : were Romney approached for a steam locos. Also any reason for sending Rock & Irt From SB : Do you know how the single line was worked? From Ask Andy : Romney in 1990 hadlocos at Bure Valley, Samson, Black Prince From JP : Surprised that Dr Who was being advertised as the last of the original series was in 1989, the year before the festival. From GFM : Sylvester McCoy was at the show on at least one day :) From Ask Andy : Big Doctor Who fan here! From MP : The TV series had ended, but there was still a large following, and the series was continued in novel form From GFM : Beamish's archive had photos of him doing his thing in costume From Ask Andy : I notice vacuum as well as air brake pipe.. From GFM : http://collections.beamish.org.uk/ This is their public archive portal - obvs there's a lot more not on this system! From CG : That was David wasn't it? From Gala Rog : Does anyone know why vac brakes were used, as it was designed to use Ratty locos? From MH : How long was the line? From JL : the liverpools where vac braked From RD : Question for the end...….was this a commercial venture for the Ratty? It must have been very disruptive and while there would be good publicity, it will have been costly. Was it considered worthwhile? From Ask Andy : Did having two steam locos there leave Ratty short of motive power From SD: Black Prince spend that summer at ratty covering for Irt From SD : I still have my garden festival programme complete with map. You can borrow it. From MP : was there any plan to keep the railway on after the end of the festival (like they tried with Liverpool)? From JL : what where facilities like for stabling and maintainance From GFM : Pepsi and British Gas taste the same From MP : I think that tram was from the Gateshead system. From DGWR : & it must been busy because Northern Rock 2 had just been sent to Japan From MP : I think a couple of years back we were relaying at Walk Mill Summit, and the rails were ex-Gateshead that needed re-bending a bit. From NB : That rail did wonders for my biceps… From MP : I heard that Rock went to Bure Valley partially to try and tempt Bure Valley into buying several Rock-type locos? From JL : thankyou to all.for a superb presentation. the garden festival concept was the Inspiration of the Haigh hall railway which is still with us just about From SB : It must have left things tight sharing are locos with both gatesheadand BVR that summer. From MH : Locos and stock would have been an issue in the longer term for sustaining these railways? From JL : I would suspect that given the funding and manpower services, and the grants available at the time locos and stock would of been procured From NB : I have a special affection for Black Prince - it’s what Nigel means! From MP : just going back to gateshead, was there a tv-programme made about the festival? I remember seeing something on YouTube a couple of years back. From SD : Is anything left? Can you trace the route or has it all disappeared under housing? From ST : I have a few stills of Gateshead I think they are BW From ST : Dave Holroyde not surprisingly was at Gateshead several times From ST : I prob have some dup slides of his From MP : ah, found the tv programme, an hour long film made by tyne-tees television. From MH : No trace of Liverpool I'm told From SD : I explored Liverpool a few years back - there is some new landscape area that follows some of the former railway route. I'll post some pictures if I can find them.