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Most leaders don’t burn out from doing too much. They burn out because they stop leading themselves. What if the reason so many leaders feel burned out, disconnected, or empty isn’t a lack of skill but a lack of inner leadership? In this episode of Self-Leadership Lab, Bobby sits down with Greg Woodard, author of Leadership from Within, to explore why true leadership starts on the inside and how neglecting your inner life eventually undermines your effectiveness on the outside. Drawing from 22 years of military service, chaplaincy in high-stress environments, and deep spiritual formation, Greg breaks down why leaders who focus only on external success often find themselves exhausted, isolated, and unfulfilled. This conversation goes beyond tactics and titles. It’s about character, soul care, and sustainable leadership. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: • Why leadership always starts with self-leadership • The hidden danger of letting success outpace character • Why burnout is often a misalignment problem, not a workload problem • The difference between human doing and human being • How unprocessed emotions quietly sabotage leadership decisions • Why physical health is not personal; it’s a leadership responsibility • How purpose and calling unfold over time, not overnight • Why isolation increases as leaders rise and how to counter it • The power of a “personal board of directors” for honest self-reflection The Four Rhythms of Leadership from Within: Greg introduces four essential rhythms every leader must tend if they want to flourish personally and professionally: 1. Relational Rhythm -Why leadership is a team sport and why leaders must invite truth-tellers into their lives 2. Spiritual Rhythm - How faith, hope, and inner grounding sustain leaders through hardship 3. Emotional Rhythm - Why unprocessed emotions don’t disappear—they resurface later 4. Physical Rhythm - How sleep, movement, and physical health directly impact leadership effectiveness Takeaway: Flourishing as a leader is possible but only when leadership is rooted in intentional, sustainable inner rhythms. If you’ve ever felt successful on the outside but empty on the inside, this episode will give you language, clarity, and practical starting points to begin leading yourself from within. About the Guest: Greg Woodard is a retired Navy chaplain and the author of Leadership from Within. His work focuses on helping leaders build sustainable inner lives that support long-term impact, integrity, and well-being. Learn more and find Greg’s book at: www.gregwoodard.com If this conversation helped you rethink your inner voice, hit Subscribe and turn on notifications. New episodes every week to help you lead yourself better. Want to be a guest on The Self-Leadership Lab? Send Bobby Shelton a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpr... leadership burnout, self-leadership, leadership from within, burnout prevention, emotional intelligence leadership, faith and leadership, spiritual leadership, leadership development, mental health for leaders, leading yourself, leadership habits, character-based leadership, leadership podcast, Christian leadership, purpose and burnout, Bobby Shelton, Greg Woodard, PodMatch