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IDEAS is proud to present the latest iteration of the Book Talk Series, held in collaboration with Bazm-e-AaLam. The event was held at Hast-o-Neest, Lahore on December 9th 2024. The Book talk features Dr. Yasser Kureshi, author of “Seeking Supremacy: The Pursuit of Judicial Power in Pakistan”, and is moderated by Dr. Maryam Khan, Research Fellow at IDEAS. Together, they unpack the judiciary’s evolving role in Pakistan’s political landscape, offering invaluable insights into its relationship with the military. Event Annotation 00:00 Introduction and Overview The significance of doing these book talks in collaboration with Bazm-e-Alam Dr. Maryam Khan introduces Dr. Yasser Kureshi 01:50 Dr. Kureshi’s Research, Book Overview and its Significance His research looks at the politics of unelected state institutions outside democratic contexts. In particular, his book is on judicial military relations and their impact on constitutional configurations and democratic outcomes, especially, in authoritarian contexts like Pakistan. 03:50 What is Socio-Legal? Conventional way of legal research (through judgements) vs. political timeline method vs. the socio-legal method Why was Dr. Kureshi motivated to use this method? 14.58 On Empirical Research Judiciary as a collaborator to judiciary as a challenger to the military. The three military prerogatives where they claim dominant or exclusive authority over this very long historical arc. How courts deal with the military over time. The different areas of interest of the military and how the judiciary is dealing with them over time and what issues they’re more willing to challenge them on. Contesting economic and security interests becomes more important, that’s when you see court more willing to confront military power 21:08 Judicial Audiences Framework or the Audience Framework Why don't the existing explanatory frameworks do justice to explaining what has happened and what is this audience's framework which Dr. Kureshi is presenting and what does it mean? 29:55 Judges and their relationship with the Military and Civil Bureaucracy The audience has now changed, the process of appointments had changed, social networks have changed The change in the politics and culture of the bar Bar as a network Bar as an actor is political movements in our history The history of bar associations 44:30 The role of class and how we characterize the bar? The significance of the lawyer’s movement 54:40 Cleavages in the Bar Ethno-linguistic and ethno-regional divides in the bar If political parties are exploiting those cleavages, and co-opting them, then how can the military exploit these cleavages? Question and Answers 59:42 Question and Answers 110:00 Closing Remarks