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Welcome to You Can’t Say That In Church, Episode 2, live in the Batcave with Derek Minor and Parris Chariz. This week we talk about what artists don’t want to admit, do you have real fans, or are you being carried by algorithms? We break down why streaming numbers can look big but still feel empty, why “supporters” aren’t the same as a fanbase, and what it really means to be an artist in 2026. We also get into the real reason a lot of Christian rap artists age out, how being “adjacent to CCM” can help or hurt, and why building with people matters more than trying to do it alone. 0:00 “We Dropped Episode 1… And I’m Sick About It” 2:13 “Weddings Fix Marriages… For Real” 5:07 “Kids Hoop Like 2K Now” 8:38 “He Made $10K BEFORE The Album Dropped” 14:44 “Do You Have Fans… Or Just Algorithms?” 19:30 “Christian Rap Thinks It Has Fans… It Doesn’t” 24:19 “The CCM Cheat Code… And The Trap” 30:49 “You Built A Graceless Crowd… Now It’s Your Turn” Drop your take in the comments, do you think CHH has real fanbases, or just moments? For more content like this, go to derekminor.com. FOLLOW Website, https://derekminor.com Instagram, / thederekminor Parris Chariz, / parrischariz Podcast, / saydatpod SUBSCRIBE Derek Minor on YouTube, @thederekminor Parris Chariz on YouTube, @parrischariz #YouCantSayThatInChurch #DerekMinor #ParrisChariz #ChristianPodcast #ChristianHipHop #CHH #FaithAndCulture #ChurchCulture #MusicBusiness #independentartist