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At EduCode 2026, we sat down with Dave Basinger, Principal CEO, and Terry Knox, Development Services Director, from Shums Coda Associates for a conversation about leadership, collaboration, and the future of community development. Dave and Terry share why Shums Coda continues to attend and support EduCode — and why events like this are so important to the industry. Beyond the classes and continuing education credits, they highlight the real value of networking: the hallway conversations, the relationship-building, and the discussions that help shape where our profession is going next. In this episode, we explore: • The evolving landscape of development services • The importance of partnership between agencies and consultants • How conferences like EduCode spark forward-thinking dialogue • And the story behind Sonny If you’ve been to EduCode, you’ve likely seen the well-known wooden doll mascot associated with Shums Coda. His name is Sonny, and he’s become a tradition — with attendees sending photos of Sonny from all over the world. It’s a lighthearted symbol of the relationships and connections that make this profession unique. This episode is a great listen for anyone in building safety, permitting, or community development who believes progress happens through conversation. Subscribe for more conversations with leaders shaping the built environment. Listen, learn, and keep Speaking In Code. #ShumsCoda #speakingincode #educode #snicc #icc