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What does it take to fly a fighter jet at 500 mph — and then use those same lessons to soar in life and leadership? In this electrifying Thunderbird Pilot interview on Heartbeat for Hire, host Lyndsay Dowd sits down with Michelle “Mace” Curran — former U.S. Air Force Thunderbird pilot, author, and founder of Upside Down Dreams. Mace shares her journey from high-stakes combat missions to center stage as the only female pilot in the elite Thunderbirds squadron. Her story is one of grit, courage, and purpose — but also of vulnerability. Mace opens up about facing fear, embracing imperfection, and learning that true confidence comes from courage, not control. You’ll walk away with actionable lessons on leadership, mindset, and what it really means to be a badass — in business and in life. 👤 About the Guest Michelle “Mace” Curran is a former U.S. Air Force Fighter Pilot who spent 13 years breaking barriers in the sky — and inspiring millions on the ground. From 2019 to 2021, she served as the only female pilot for the Air Force Thunderbirds, performing high-speed aerial demonstrations across the globe. Before joining the Thunderbirds, Michelle was a combat-proven fighter pilot, completing missions across Europe, Asia, and the Middle East. As the Lead Solo for the Thunderbirds, she realized that while flying was thrilling, her true calling was motivating others to conquer fear, embrace self-doubt, and pursue their biggest dreams. After transitioning out of the military, Michelle founded Upside Down Dreams, a company dedicated to empowering people of all ages to build confidence and resilience through storytelling and mindset work. She’s also the author of two children’s books, an acclaimed motivational speaker, and a featured guest on The Kelly Clarkson Show, CBS Evening News, and Glamour. When she’s not inspiring audiences or writing, Mace can be found adventuring outdoors and reminding others that courage isn’t the absence of fear — it’s the decision to rise above it. 🔗 Learn more: https://macecurran.com/ 💼 LinkedIn: / macecurran 👩💼 About the Host – Lyndsay Dowd is a Speaker, Founder, Author, Coach, Podcast Host—and unapologetic Disruptor. With 30 years of leadership experience, including 23 at IBM, she's built and led high-performing teams that consistently delivered results. She also served as a Guest Lecturer at Harvard University, sharing her insights on modern leadership and culture transformation. As the founder of Heartbeat for Hire, Lyndsay helps companies ditch toxic leadership and build irresistible cultures that drive performance, retention, and impact. She's been featured in Fortune Magazine, HR.com, ABC, NBC, FOX, CBS, and over 100 podcasts. Lyndsay is a two-time best selling author of Top Down Culture and Voices of Women, and the host of the globally ranked and 2X awarded Heartbeat for Hire podcast—sitting in the top 2.5% worldwide. She is also the host of a weekly live show called THE LEADERSHIP LOUNGE. Lyndsay is a frequent speaker, moderator, and guest, known for her candor, humor, and ability to spark action. 📲 Connect with Lyndsay Dowd: 👉 Website: https://heartbeatforhire.com 👉 LinkedIn: / lyndsaydowdh4h 👉 Instagram: / lyndsaydowdh4h 👉 Facebook: / lyndsaydowdh4h 👉 Tiktok: / lyndsaydowdh4h #LyndsayDowd #HeartbeatForHire #Leadership #ModernLeadership #SalesLeadership #LeadershipCoach #BusinessCoach #SalesCoach #CareerDevelopment #ProfessionalDevelopment #PersonalGrowth #Entrepreneurship #BusinessExcellence #InnovativeLeadership #LeadershipCulture #BusinessManagement #CoachingSuccess #WomenInBusiness #TopDownCulture #AwardWinner #TopPodcastHost #PodcastHost #HarvardLecturer