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Sky News Political Editor Andrew Clennell discusses a “somewhat ironic” interview from 2020 where Mike Pezzullo spoke about the importance of separation between politicians and the public service. A joint investigation by 60 Minutes, The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald revealed Mr Pezzullo allegedly operated outside the acceptable boundaries for public servants, exploiting a relationship with Liberal powerbroker Scott Briggs to exert influence at the highest levels of government. The messages show Mr Pezzullo badmouthed moderate Liberals, including Julie Bishop and Marise Payne. “It’s a great honour and a privilege to be able to sit in those rooms to give that advice, we are always heard out and we know that in a democracy we have to respect the decision that is taken but we actively support that as the right thing,” he said during an interview with Sky News Australia in 2020. Mr Pezzullo has since stood aside from his role pending an investigation. Mr Clennell noted the Home Affairs Secretary is not expected to return to his role.