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"I find it difficult to draw such a clear line," reflects Armin von Bogdandy on the moral dilemma that has haunted intellectuals for generations: engage with problematic power politics, or preserve principle through withdrawal from hard choices? Von Bogdandy, a director at MPIL and a recipient of Germany’s Leibniz Prize, uses a century of institutional memory to probe this tension. Through the triptych “Der 9. November 1989 in Deuna am Morgen danach“ by Hans Dieter Tylle, on permanent display in the Institute’s entrance hall, he traces how Germany’s military defeats reshaped legal scholarship — from nationalist instrumentalism to European integration, constitutional democracy, and transnational judicial dialogue. This conversation with historian Philipp Glahé draws uncomfortable parallels between past and present: Institute colleagues who collaborated with Nazi authorities alongside those who joined the resistance, mirrored by contemporary scholars’ dilemmas over engaging controversial governments. "These are very difficult situations," he acknowledges, refusing easy moral categories. As institutional memory fades — over half of today’s staff are under 35 — von Bogdandy challenges academic orthodoxies, arguing that the Institute’s strength lies less in a shared identity than in productive disagreement and diversity, and showing why the choice between engagement and principle transcends any single historical moment. About MPIL100 This interview is part of MPIL100 (mpil100.de), the centenary project exploring the Max Planck Institute for Comparative Public Law and International Law’s 100-year history. MPIL100, led by Philipp Glahé and Alexandra Kemmerer, puts a spotlight not only on the institute’s milestones and global influence, but also critically examines its complex past. Through blog posts and video interviews with former members, the project preserves and reflects upon both personal stories and institutional narratives, offering nuanced insights into how MPIL has changed, learned, and shaped international law across generations. The project is generously funded by the Max-Planck-Förderstiftung. About Armin von Bogdandy Armin von Bogdandy is a director at the Max Planck Institute for Comparative Public Law and International Law in Heidelberg, pairing rigorous theory with engagement in constitutional and rule‑of‑law crises. He helped coin and further develop influential conceptual frameworks: “international public authority” analysing how actors like the OECD shape national policy through information, “Transition 2.0” aiming to re-establish constitutional democracy and rule of law in Poland and Hungary, and “transformative constitutionalism,” advancing regional human rights–driven change in Latin America. He has contributed legal analyses and proposals that inform EU debates on democratic backsliding. A recipient of Germany’s Leibniz Prize and multiple honorary doctorates, he exemplifies the scholar‑practitioner: multilingual, philosophically trained, and comparative in outlook. His work insists that law’s deepest questions transcend borders — and that answering them demands both conceptual ambition and institutional craftsmanship. Related Resources • MPIL100 Blog Project: https://mpil100.de • Armin von Bogdandy, Philipp Glahé, Two Defeats in Two World Wars as a Red Thread in the Institute’s History, https://mpil100.de/2024/04/alles-ganz... • Armin von Bogdandy, Im Spiegel des Mauerfalls. Die Identität des Instituts im „Der 9. November 1989 in Deuna, am Morgen danach“: https://mpil100.de/2024/07/im-spiegel... • Armin von Bogdandy & Mariela Morales Antoniazzi, Research with Latin America. The Path of MPIL: https://mpil100.de/2025/02/forschen-m... • Armin von Bogdandy, Hermann Mosler, Der Befreier: https://mpil100.de/2024/11/hermann-mo... Credits Interviewer: Philipp Glahé Editorial Lead: Philipp Glahé and Alexandra Kemmerer Video production: Sjors Swierstra and Aldine Reinink Chapters 0:00:11 – “Der 9. November 1989 in Deuna, am Morgen danach” 0:05:15 – The Red Thread of German History 0:09:08 – Founding After the First World War (1924) 0:15:40 – The Weimar Years: Diversity and Excellence 0:22:22 – "Völkerrecht als Rechtsordnung" (1929) 0:25:34 – Navigating the Nazi Period (1933–1945) 0:32:13 – The Second Defeat and Reconstruction 0:37:07 – Bilfinger's Post-War Response 0:39:56 – Mosler's Transformation (1954–) 0:43:12 – The German Question and Internal Debates 0:46:25 – Living Memory: Doehring and Bernhardt 0:49:17 – Generational Change and Fading Memory 0:50:28 – Institutional Identity and Pluralism 0:53:14 – The Open Symbol: Interpreting the Mast