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What does it take to successfully navigate a massive IT transformation without ending up in the headlines? In this episode of Insights for IT Negotiations, hosts John Belden and Kylie Chisholm are joined by Upper Edge Chief Advisory Officer Len Riley and OG&E’s Director of Technology Strategy, Kevin Lagge, to break down OG&E’s five-year SAP S/4HANA and RISE transformation journey. Kevin shares candid lessons from the front lines around Phase 0 decision-making, executive alignment, negotiating early SAP RISE contracts, and managing a multi–systems integrator model. The conversation also explores how strong governance, built-in flexibility, and innovative use of generative AI helped OG&E stay on track, control costs, and ultimately thrive through change, all with the help of UpperEdge. A must-listen for IT leaders facing large-scale ERP, cloud, or digital transformation initiatives. 00:00 – “We Could Not Have Done This Without Upper Edge” 02:53 – OG&E’s SAP Transformation: The Big Picture 10:14 – Phase Zero: The Decisions That Make or Break Everything 21:00 – SAP RISE Negotiations: Why This Is So Hard (and Risky) 24:18 – How OG&E Negotiated the Right SAP Deal 33:35 – Why OG&E Used Two Systems Integrators (Not One) 41:20 – How OG&E Used AI to Save Months and Millions 50:43 – Kevin Lagge’s Hard-Earned Lessons for Executives #ITTransformation #SAPRISE #SAPS4HANA #ITNegotiations #DigitalTransformation #ERPTransformation #ITLeadership #VendorManagement #CloudStrategy #SystemsIntegration #Governance #AIinIT #EnterpriseIT #UpperEdge Resources: WHITE PAPER - Driving Value Through Discipline: How an Energy Company Reimagined Transformation with UpperEdge - https://upperedge.com/documents/white... BLOG - Pivot Points: How Smart Clients Avoid Cost Overruns in Large IT Programs - https://upperedge.com/digital-transfo... About the Show: Welcome to Insights for IT Negotiations, a podcast by UpperEdge, a leading IT sourcing, negotiation, and project execution advisory firm. Join John Belden, UpperEdge’s Chief Research and Strategy Officer, and Kylie Chisholm, UpperEdge’s Marketing Manager, every other week as they share valuable insights to help you maximize the value of your key IT relationships. Don't forget to like & subscribe for more insights! For more innovative IT sourcing and risk mitigation insights: • Watch the full video - https://upperedge.com/knowledge-cente... • Contact Us - https://upperedge.com/who-we-are/cont... • Subscribe to the UpperEdge Newsletter -https://upperedge.com/knowledge-cente... • Follow us on LinkedIn - / upperedge-llc • Follow us on Twitter - / upperedge