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When AI Fuels Genocide in Gaza: Ibtihal Aboussad vs. Microsoft | Ahmed Eldin In this powerful episode of Out Loud, creator Ahmed Eldin sits down with Ibtihal Aboussad, a former Microsoft software engineer who risked everything to speak the truth. From the outside, she was a promising tech professional climbing the ladder in Big Tech. But behind closed doors, she discovered something she couldn’t ignore: Microsoft’s AI and cloud infrastructure were directly supporting Israeli military operations during the Gaza offensive. What began as a quiet realization soon became an unstoppable reckoning. Ibtihal didn’t just walk away—she disrupted a major Microsoft event, challenged executives face-to-face, and became one of the most courageous whistleblowers to emerge from the tech industry in recent years. In this episode, we dive deep into: 1) Her emotional and moral journey from Morocco to Canada to Microsoft 2) The $10M+ worth of Microsoft’s engineering and AI support to the Israeli Ministry of Defense since October 2023 3) What it's like to confront your employer about complicity in violence—and face silence in return 4) The intersection of power, identity, and belonging in the workplace 5) What does it mean to take a stand when the cost is your career This isn’t just about Microsoft. It’s about every tech worker, engineer, and employee who wonders: Where is the line between innovation and complicity? It’s about refusing to be silent in the face of systemic violence—whether you're in Gaza or Seattle, Ramallah or Redmond. Ibtihal Aboussad’s story isn’t one of protest. It’s one of conscience. In an industry that rewards silence, she chose to speak Out Loud. Timestamps -: 00:00 - Highlights 00:59 - Introduction 01:53 - Where did you grow up? 03:10 - Have you had any similar experience like standing clear of the right things? 05:08 - What Drew you to AI? 08:36 - How has that reality of your life shaped your lens when it comes to power, identity, and belonging? 10:25 - Do you have a sense of belonging? 13:09 - Do you have an emotional encounter with Palestine? 15:16 - Microsoft's direct role in enabling the Israeli military operations or genocide operation in Gaza. 19:13 - Do you consider yourself a whistle-blower? 20:22 - What gave you the courage to disrupt a major Microsoft event with the AI CEO? 23:37 - Is there something that people would be surprised to know about the Microsoft reaction, whether the executives or workers? 26:59 - When the students chanted Ibtihaj, you make us proud what does that make you feel? and the answer of Microsoft executives to your question about the use of Microsoft AI for the genocide in Palestine. 33:48 - What would you say to colleagues who definitely feel uncomfortable by what their work is being used for? 36:29 - Are you encouraged by the growth of this movement, or do you think it's not enough? 38:03 - Quick Questions 🔔 Don’t forget to follow the podcast and share this episode with anyone who believes tech should serve humanity, not harm it.