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Eminent British playwright David Hare, dramatist of Straight Line Crazy, engages in conversation with Roberta Brandes Gratz, urbanist and friend of Jane Jacobs, who was a symbol of opposition to Robert Moses after the publication of her classic book The Death and Life of American Cities in 1961. In discussion with preservationist Anthony Wood, they consider the legends and legacies of these two figures and their current implications. David Hare, playwright and screenwriter, won a Tony award for Skylight and received nominations for Plenty and Racing Demon, as well as Academy Award nominations for The Hours and The Reader. Roberta Brandes Gratz is the author of The Battle for Gotham: New York in the Shadow of Robert Moses and Jane Jacobs. Recorded November 10, 2023 00:00-4:28 Introduction 4:28-41:58 Conversation 41:58-1:00:36 Audience Q&A