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Wade Davis: Beneath the Surface of Things

Wade Davis, author of Beneath the Surface of Things, explores the intersection of culture, nature, and consciousness in a thought-provoking conversation with Dennis McKenna Support the McKenna Academy: https://mckenna.academy/donate Watch this next:    • Wade Davis: Coca, The Divine Leaf of Immor...   EPISODE LINKS: Beneath the Surface of Things: New and Selected Essays https://www.amazon.com/Beneath-Surfac... COURSES: Mckenna Academy course catalog: https://mckenna.academy/course-list/ The Shamanic Art of Healing by Wade Davis: https://mckenna.academy/course/the-sh... SOCIAL MEDIA & & WEBSITE: Twitter:   / mckennaacademy   Instagram:   / mckenna.academy   Facebook:   / mckenna.academy   Website: https://mckenna.academy Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction 04:10 - The unexpected gift of the COVID-19 lockdown: A time for reflection and rediscovery of past experiences 04:50 - Finding new vistas through literature: Wade’s exploration of ideas during his pandemic-induced hiatus 06:00 - The dangers of ideological rigidity and the importance of embracing nuance 07:15 - The influence of psychedelics on Wade’s life and work: A catalyst for challenging norms and fostering a deeper understanding of women and nature 07:42 - The transformative power of psychedelics: A potential for personal and societal growth, despite the risks and societal taboos 13:00 - The limitations of technological solutions to climate change and the need for a paradigm shift 14:00 - The importance of individual agency in addressing climate change, balanced with a realistic understanding of global trends 17:00 - The crucial role of women's liberation and economic development in mitigating climate change 22:00 - The vital need to restore and protect natural ecosystems, prioritizing nature-based solutions over technological fixes 23:50 - The unintended consequences of focusing solely on climate change, leading to the neglect of other critical environmental issues 28:00 - The pervasive yet flawed assumption that nature is inert and exists solely for human exploitation 38:20 - The stark contrast between coca and cocaine, highlighting the cultural significance of the former and the destructive consequences of the latter's prohibition 46:20 - The potential benefits of coca as a stimulant and nutritional source, if liberated from the stigma and restrictions of the war on drugs 48:50 - The hypocrisy of the war on drugs, driven by economic interests rather than genuine concern for public health 54:50 - The potential for legal coca production to benefit both consumers and producers, while undermining the illicit drug trade 56:00 - The absurdity of demonizing one plant (coca) while celebrating another (coffee), exposing the arbitrariness of drug policy 59:00 - The destructive and futile consequences of attempting to eradicate coca through aerial spraying and biological warfare 1:02:04 - Wade's appreciation for the Mckenna Academy 1:02:51 - Wade's influence on Dennis's Career 1:04:38 -The Motivational Influence of Richard Evans Schultes 1:06:06 - Discussion about Wade's book One River: Explorations and Discoveries in the Amazon Rain Forest #mckennaacademy #dennismckenna #wadedavis About: Join renowned anthropologist and ethnobotanist Wade Davis as he sits down with Dennis McKenna on the Brainforest Café for a captivating conversation that delves deep into the complexities of our modern world. This episode goes far beyond the pages of Wade's latest book, Beneath the Surface of Things, exploring a vast landscape of interconnected topics. Prepare to challenge your assumptions as Wade and Dennis dissect the failures of the war on drugs, revealing the hidden potential of coca and exposing the hypocrisy driving global drug policy. They'll take you on a journey through indigenous cultures, highlighting the wisdom and sustainable practices of communities who view themselves as integral parts of nature, not conquerors of it. Listen in as they grapple with the urgent realities of climate change, questioning the effectiveness of popular technological solutions and advocating for a paradigm shift that embraces the interconnectedness of all life. Discover the power of psychedelics to awaken consciousness and break down ideological barriers, fostering a deeper appreciation for the natural world. This isn't just a conversation; it's a call to action, urging us to listen to ancient wisdom and embrace the radical hope that a more sustainable and harmonious future is possible. Get ready to dive beneath the surface and explore the depths of human culture, consciousness, and our relationship with the living Earth.