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Self-defense is an affirmative defense that can legally justify the use of force and even the use of deadly force. But what happens if the defendant was the initial aggressor or provoked the victim in some way — can the defendant still claim self-defense? Professor Kimberly Ferzan of the University of Pennsylvania School of Law discusses under what circumstances defendants may forfeit their defensive rights, what it means to be an initial aggressor or a provocateur, and how courts interpret the differences between the two? Kimberly Kessler Ferzan is a professor at the University of Pennsylvania Law School. She is a national expert on criminal law and criminal procedure. ► http://www.talksonlaw.com for more legal explainers and interviews with the titans of law. ► Facebook: / talksonlaw ► Instagram: / talksonlaw ► Twitter: / talksonlaw ____________________ Interview Outline 00:00 Introduction of criminal law expert, Prof. Kimberly Ferzan of U. Penn Law 00:10 Do initial aggressors have a right to use violence in self defense? 00:21 The short answer is "no, but..." 01:20 Regaining Self Defense Rights by Retreat or Disproportionate Escalation to Deadly Force 01:50 What does it mean to be a provocateur in self defense doctrine? 02:40 "Mere words” as Provocation 04:03 Tricking Someone into Provoking Deadly Force