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The Holodomor (and whether it was a genocide)

This video is an in depth view on the South soviet famine of 1932 and 1933, specifically in Ukraine known as the Holodomor. I explain the historical facts about the famine and engage in the question of whether or not this historical tragedy can rightfully be called a genocide. Patreon:   / viki1999   Second channel:    / Канал   Subreddit:   / viki1999   Twitter:   / viki1999yt   E-Mail Address: [email protected] The song in the outro was produced by 08 (who gave me no way to credit them), you can listen to the whole remix on my second channel:    • Видео   Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 3:31 What happened 8:45 The video I would have made 14:05 The issue with my argument 19:50 The argument for genocide 25:51 The argument against genocide 31:03 The Kazakhstan famine of 1932 33:44 Conclusion Sources: [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor [2] https://www.britannica.com/event/Holo... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_... [4]    • How did the Soviet Union work?   [5] https://www.proquest.com/openview/e34... [6] https://www.wsj.com/articles/rule-by-... [7] Davies, Robert; Wheatcroft, Stephen (2009). The years of hunger: Soviet agriculture, 1931–1933. Palgrave Macmillan. ISBN 9780333311073. [8] https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevent... [9] https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn... [10] https://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/... [11] https://education.holodomor.ca/wp-con... [12] https://education.holodomor.ca/teachi... [13] https://www.uio.no/studier/emner/hf/i... [14] https://history.wvu.edu/faculty-and-s... [15] Tauger, Mark (1991). "The 1932 Harvest and the Famine of 1933". Slavic Review. 50 (1): 70–89. doi:10.2307/2500600. JSTOR 2500600. [16] https://archive.org/details/stalinist... [17] http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/02/02... 5 person discord invite. Hit the bell to catch it under the next video. And please only use it if you willbe active on the server, otherwise leave it for others:   / discord   Transcript: Hello everybody. This is gonna be an interesting one. We are talking about the Holodomor and whether it was a genocide or not, and then we will go meta and explore why we even ask ourselves that, exciting. I already know there will be some people in the comments, usually with anime Stalin avatars telling me that “holodomor” is a propaganda name and I should call it “the soviet famine of 1932 and 33.” But that is a mouth full and when I say Holodomor everyone familiar with the event knows what I mean. So, let’s talk about the thing that happened and not about how to call it. I think there is a non-zero chance some viewers may not have heard about the holodmor before. In that case, stick around for a minute I’ll get to it. The Holodomor is a very controversial issue among leftists and many others to be honest. To some it is merely a famine which unfortunately killed millions, to some it is proof that the government of the USSR was cruel and idealistic and to some it was a deliberate extermination of Ukrainian people, a genocide. And others used this tragedy to blame socialism in general and Stalin in particular. I agree with some of them and not with others. For this video I will use the following approach: I will go over the undeniable facts, this part should not be controversial to any side. Then I will talk about how I used to think about it, what I thought it should have been remembered as, then I will summarise why some think it was a genocide, why others disagree and a frighteningly similar event that happened at the same time and why we don’t argue about this one. In this video, unlike my other ones I will not try to convince you of one position. I want to communicate to you what people believe, as well as why they believe it, and I want you to decide between those. I will mention how I used to think about it, but I want you to form your independent decision this time. No vikiist party line here.

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