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In this episode of the “ReAutomated” podcast, Chris Savoia sits down with Brian Gerkey, CTO of @intrinsic and former CEO of Open Robotics, to explore the future of robotics and automation. They delve into Brian's transition from Open Robotics to Intrinsic, highlighting the revolutionary impact of the Robot Operating System (ROS) in democratising robotics. Brian explains how Intrinsic is leveraging the open source ROS ecosystem, combining it with cloud-based infrastructure and easy-to-use tools to make automation more accessible to domain experts. The conversation delves into the convergence of ROS and Intrinsic's platform, highlighting the role of AI in improving robotics and bridging the gap between simulation and real-world deployment for a smoother transition from testing to practical applications. Brian also emphasises the need for hands-on learning opportunities to address education gaps and prepare the next generation of robotics talent, and shares insights into the future of robotics and its exciting potential for innovation. 🎧 Apple: https://bit.ly/reautomated-apple 🎧 Spotify: https://bit.ly/reautomated-spotify Stay connected: Show notes: https://www.universal-robots.com/reau... E-mail: socialmedia@universal-robots.com LinkedIn: / universal-robots Highlights: Introduction to the Podcast (00:00:00) Chris Savoia introduces the podcast and guest Brian Gerkey, discussing his journey in robotics. Transition to Intrinsic (00:00:41) Brian shares his motivations for moving from Open Robotics to Intrinsic, highlighting complementary goals. Impact of ROS (00:02:37) Discussion on the significance of ROS in democratizing robotics and its widespread use among developers. Convergence of ROS and Intrinsic (00:03:32) Exploration of how combining ROS with Intrinsic's tools can enhance robotics applications and deployment. Challenges in Robotics (00:05:38) Brian discusses existing challenges in applying robotics tools and the need for better infrastructure. Empowering Domain Experts (00:07:40) The importance of giving domain experts control over automation to unlock new applications. Robotics’ Windows Moment (00:09:47) Chris and Brian discuss the potential for robotics to have a transformative moment akin to personal computing. Making Robotics Accessible (00:10:57) Brian emphasizes the need to simplify robotics tools and make them more user-friendly and cloud-based. AI Integration in Intrinsic (00:12:20) Brian explains how AI powers perception in the Intrinsic platform and enhances robot functionality. Using AI in Applications (00:13:08) Discussion of AI's role in pose estimation and how it's packaged for user-friendly application. Training AI Models (00:16:01) Brian outlines Intrinsic's approach to building and integrating AI models for various applications. Differentiating Intrinsic's Platform (00:18:43) Brian compares Intrinsic's offerings to other robotic platforms, highlighting its unique advantages. Building Industrial Infrastructure (00:19:13) Discussion on the importance of industrial-grade infrastructure for scalable software deployment in robotics. Corporate Support in Robotics (00:20:37) The role of corporate backing in enabling long-term investment and maturity in robotics companies. Open Source vs Proprietary Development (00:21:40) Exploration of balancing open-source ideals with proprietary development in robotics at Intrinsic. Investing in Open Source (00:21:57) Brian discusses continued investment in open-source projects like ROS and its benefits for the community. ROS Integration with Intrinsic (00:24:00) Merging ROS with proprietary development at Intrinsic to enhance product offerings and business opportunities. Universal Robots and ROS Drivers (00:25:00) The evolution of ROS drivers in Universal Robots and their importance for customer experience. Introduction to ROS Skills (00:27:17) Explanation of "raw skills" as reusable code chunks for application development in robotics. Commercializing ROS Skills (00:30:52) Discussion on how developers can commercialize their ROS skills through the Intrinsic platform. Bridging the Sim-to-Real Gap (00:32:23) Brian explains how simulation tools help bridge the gap between simulated environments and real-world applications. Educational Gaps in Automation (00:37:01) Insights on the need for increased engagement and education in robotics for the future workforce. Impact of Education (00:40:28) Brian shares a formative experience attending space camp, highlighting its influence on his career in technology.