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In this episode, Chip Conley sits down with Christine Sperber, co-founder of MEA and master experience designer, to explore how awe, ritual, and community can bring us back to life in midlife. Drawing from ski town culture, life in Baja, and years of building transformational experiences, Christine offers a hopeful reframe of aging as something to design, not fix. In this conversation, Chip and Christine explore: Why purpose matters more than productivity in midlife How simple rituals create meaning, resilience, and belonging What nature, movement, and community teach us about vitality Why transitions like perimenopause and loss call for compassion, not hustle If midlife feels like a pause, a question mark, or an invitation to something more, this episode will leave you feeling seen, grounded, and hopeful. Listen now and rediscover what it means to feel fully alive in midlife. Timestamps: 03:22 Christine Sperber’s background 06:55 Leaving Colorado for Baja 08:49 First experience of Baja and Pescadero 10:59 Freedom and living in rhythm with nature 15:15 Experience design and creating meaningful gatherings 17:48 Baking bread as ritual and collective practice 22:14 Origin story of MEA 24:02 Early doubts and building a local economy 26:07 Lessons from the first MEA beta cohorts 30:38 Ski towns, purpose, and longevity research 33:46 Aging, vitality, and midlife perspective 40:49 Introversion, ritual, and reclaiming time 46:19 Third vault conversations and authentic community 48:26 Moral beauty as a pathway to awe 54:11 Transformation through deep connection 56:19 Designing belonging and social bonds 57:28 Wisdom bumper sticker Learn more about MEA at https://www.meawisdom.com/