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Welcome back to I'm a Software Engineer ~ What Next? — the podcast for devs figuring out their next move. Hosted by James Wilson and Matt Sinclair, we talk honestly about what it takes to build a meaningful career in tech. This week, we’re joined by Kate Catlin, Senior Product Manager at GitHub, where she works on Copilot and the future of AI-powered developer experience. In this episode, we cover: • How Kate reinvented her career multiple times on the path to GitHub • What “good product intuition” really means for PMs and engineers • How AI is reshaping product work and why evals matter for building trustworthy AI features 🗒️ Show Notes Venture For America: / venture-for-america Le Wagon Bootcamp: https://www.lewagon.com/ CircleCI: https://circleci.com/ GitHub Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot AI evaluations (evals) overview: https://www.thoughtworks.com/en-gb/in... Find My Flock (Kate’s former startup): https://www.crunchbase.com/organizati... Joseph Campbell – The Hero’s Journey: https://www.jcf.org/learn/joseph-camp... Philosophy of Technology (referenced from Kate’s studies): https://plato.stanford.edu/archives/w... 🗣️ Guest Kate Catlin — Senior PM, GitHub Copilot LinkedIn: / kate-catlin 🎙 Hosts Matt: https://matthewsinclair.com James: / james-wilson-92170656 🌐 More from us: https://whatnext.dev/ https://quantumfaxmachine.com/