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This week is a special episode as we welcome two guests for an extra long episode - and believe the first rec-to-rec collaboration on a podcast. Susanna Gray-Jones worked within education recruitment for 13 years, before starting her own rec2rec recruitment business during covid - Chime Search FZCO. She’s also the host of her own podcast, The Counter Offer Callum McPhilbin, was a teacher for around four years before leaping into the rec2rec world of recruitment, he's also a host of his own podcast, Humble Billings. In this episode, they cover a plethora of topics, really lifting the lid on the recruitment industry and revealing the secrets of the R2R world.... They cover: Their journey to recruitment Their advice on focusing on a vertical market Which markets we should be focusing on in 2024 Advice to trainees looking to start their career in recruitment What behaviours we should be looking for when hiring recruiters What have they learnt from their podcast guests Advice on changing sectors within recruitment Is R2R the hardest rec job of all? Connect with them here / susannagray-jones / callum-mcphilbin-bba32a235 ------------ The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi and Inclusion Crowd. Our Sponsor: Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations. Find out more details on Paiger here - https://paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast... Our Partners: Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https://needi.co.uk/ Inclusion Crowd works with organisations to create a credible and authentic DEI programme, they help clients attract & retain talent - as well as improve culture & engagement. Their vision is to make organisations reflective of the societies in which they operate. Find out more here https://inclusioncrowd.biz/