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In this episode of the Product Agility Podcast, host Ben Maynard tackles one of the most misunderstood and overlooked challenges in scaling product organisations: the persistent misalignment between product and technology teams. Ben explores how chaos at scale is often a design flaw, not a team flaw — a consequence of mismatched incentives, unclear operating models, and siloed roadmaps that leave engineering and product pulling in opposite directions. Through personal experience, practical insight, and a healthy dose of provocation, Ben lays out what it really takes to achieve harmony between CPOs and CTOs, and why true alignment doesn't kill autonomy — it unlocks it. Topics include: Why most scaling efforts fail due to organisational architecture, not execution The signs your product and tech teams are scaling dysfunction, not value The “invisible war” between product outcomes and engineering throughput How to spot early misalignment and avoid bloated governance Practical strategies for shared roadmaps, operating models, and unified OKRs How platform teams can be internal product teams — not invisible bottlenecks Why alignment is the secret weapon for autonomy, clarity, and sustainable scale Whether you’re a CPO, CTO, transformation leader or coach of those navigating growth and complexity, this episode offers a candid, systems-thinking perspective on scaling with intention — and without the chaos. Host Bio Ben is a seasoned expert in product agility coaching, unleashing the potential of people and products. With over a decade of experience, his focus now is product-led growth & agility in organisations of all sizes. Stay up-to-date with us on our social media📱! Ben Maynard 🔗 / benmaynard-sheev 🐦 https://x.com/BenWMaynard 💻 https://sheev.co.uk/ Product Agility Podcast 🔗 / productagilitypod 💻 https://productagilitypod.co.uk/ 🖇️ https://linktr.ee/productagility Listen & Share On Spotify & iTunes Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/0lkwAYJ... iTunes - https://apple.co/3YvTX8p Want to come on the podcast? Want to be a guest or have a guest request? Let us know here https://bit.ly/49osN80