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Rise Chain founder Sam Battenally joins Gelato founder Luis Schliesske for a deep dive into building high-performance Layer 2s optimized for on-chain order books (CLOBs). They unpack Sam's journey from running HFT strategies to building RoboVault, the reality behind parallel EVM hype, why based sequencing is crucial for decentralization, and how Rise aims to achieve 100K TPS while maintaining Ethereum's values. Want to understand the future of on-chain trading? Watch the full episode for insights on based preconfirmations, geographic trade-offs in distributed systems, and the path to competing with centralized exchanges. Timestamps 00:00 – Intro 00:40 – From RoboVault to Rise: Sam's HFT background & DeFi journey 04:00 – RoboVault's $20k daily rebalancing problem that sparked Rise 06:00 – Why build a composable L2 vs app-specific chain 09:00 – Parallel EVM reality: Why it only delivers 2-6x gains 12:00 – Breaking bottlenecks: From 1K to 50K TPS journey 17:30 – Based sequencing: Decentralization without sacrificing performance 21:00 – Based preconfs, Shreds & slashing mechanics 24:00 – Decentralized sequencer architecture & L1 validator delegation 27:00 – Why MCP doesn't solve execution latency for trading 29:00 – Rise vs HyperLiquid: EVM composability & cost advantages 32:00 – Solving liquidity fragmentation with on-chain aggregation 34:00 – GTM strategy: Product-first approach & mobile UX focus 37:00 – Target builders: DeFi-native teams & permissionless innovation 39:00 – Mainnet timeline & closing thoughts