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We're taking a break this week from our class on Reading the Bible for Yourself. By the way, did you know that there's a separate podcast just for classes without any interruptions like this? You can find it if you search your podcast app for Restitutio Classes. Anyhow, I had an opportunity to speak with Dr. Dale Tuggy about his recent debate with Dr. James White and wanted to share that conversation with you now rather than waiting until the end of this class. On March 9, 2024 in Houston Texas at the First Lutheran Church, Dale Tuggy debated James White on the question, "Is Jesus Yahweh?" White affirmed and Tuggy denied. Just to give you a little background on these two scholars, James White (https://www.aomin.org/aoblog/) is a professor of Apologetics at Grace Bible Theological Seminary and has a bachelors from Grand Canyon University, a masters from Fuller Theological Seminary, and a doctorate of ministry from Columbia Evangelical Seminary. He has participated in over 180 public moderated debates and has written the book The Forgotten Trinity (https://www.amazon.com/Forgotten-Trin...) in which he presented his case that the Trinity is biblical. Dale Tuggy (https://trinities.org/blog/) is an Analytic Theologian who has a bachelors from BIOLA, a masters from Claremont School of Theology, and a Ph.D. from Brown University. He's the chair of the Unitarian Christian Alliance and the author of What Is the Trinity? (https://www.amazon.com/What-Trinity-T...) , which explains the major Trinity theories and the problems each faces. In what follows, I ask Tuggy how he thought the debate went. Listen to this episode on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/1cVksI1...) or Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...) The debate lasted over two hours and is accessible on YouTube ( • Dale Tuggy and James White debate: "Is Jes... ) . The format of the debate was as follows: 1. Opening Statement (25 min each) 2. Rebuttal (10 min each) 3. Cross Examination (10 min each) 4. Concluding Statement (5 min each) 5. Audience Questions (20 min total) Here's the video: • Dale Tuggy and James White debate: "Is Jes... —— Links —— • More interviews with Dale Tuggy here (https://restitutio.org/speaker/dale-t...) • Visit Tuggy's website at trinities.org (https://trinities.org/blog/) • Check out his books on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/s?k=dale+tuggy...) , especially What Is the Trinity? (https://www.amazon.com/What-Trinity-T...) • Get Philip Kapusta's book on Hebrews (https://www.amazon.com/Scripturae-Con...) • Read Thomas Gaston's article (https://www.academia.edu/94111064/Why...) on Hebrews 1.10-12 • Get the transcript (https://restitutio.org/wp-content/upl...) of this episode • Support Restitutio by donating here (https://restitutio.org/donations/) • Join our Restitutio Facebook Group ( / 432670130820822 ) and follow Sean Finnegan on Twitter @RestitutioSF ( / restitutiosf ) • Leave a voice message (https://www.speakpipe.com/restitutio) via SpeakPipe with questions or comments and we may play them out on the air • Intro music: Good Vibes by MBB (https://so...